Sept. 18, 2023
A New Generation of Leadership | Jeff Ard | Listen Up Livingston

In this episode Jim Chapman sits down for a second podcast in as many months with Livingston Parish Councilman Jeff Ard as he continues to discuss his plans for the future of the Parish should he be elected to Livingston Parish President....
In this episode Jim Chapman sits down for a second podcast in as many months with Livingston Parish Councilman Jeff Ard as he continues to discuss his plans for the future of the Parish should he be elected to Livingston Parish President. #LivingstonParishPresident #LivingstonParish #Listenuplivingston #Jeffard
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to
another edition of Local Leaders the podcast.
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This is our link up Livingston edition
and we have a man. You're an
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most of co host. You've been
here several times. Yeah, it's jeff
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Ard and long campaign road you're wrapping
up right now four weeks la. Right
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at four weeks. Wow. Man, you've been going and going. Every
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time I pull up Facebook, I
see you at another event. And one
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thing I want to credit you for
right off the bat is you are making
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yourself available. I saw you just
did, and I'd invite anyone to go
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check out the Coffee with the Candidates
podcasts that was done in conjunction with the
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Livingston Parish News. I thought you
did a great job answering questions at that
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one. And we're gonna cover some
of what you talked about there today and
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just cover some other other interesting information. And I think it was a couple
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of months ago you did one me
originally. It's got a ton of you,
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So thank you everyone out there for
watching. Mad. Let me ask
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you right off the bat, you're
running for parish president, which, uh,
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if you don't know that right by
now, you've been living under a
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rock and uh you've been a councilman
for eight years, m eighth year,
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right, now, Yeah, how's
that been? It? Very education to
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education. Yes, you know,
it definitely wasn't everything that I thought it
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was when I when I first ran, you know, because I had an
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uncle that was a police juryman,
and and I kind of still looked at
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it a little bit in a as
a police jury system once I got in
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there and realized a little bit more
about how it truly is ran with the
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parish president and the council and realizing
that, you know, the council is
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a legislative body. Yeah, you
know, we write the laws, but
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uh, you know, people do
not work under our direction. Yeah,
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they work under administration's direction, you
know. And I just you know,
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I can remember people calling my uncle
and say hey, I need my ditch,
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Doug, and he'd go walk inside
because we didn't have cell phones.
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Then he'd make a phone call and
say, hey, I need y'all to
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go clean that ditch tomorrow. Doesn't
work like that now, no, No,
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it's a lot more to it,
a lot more to it, to
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say the least. And and y'all
been working on a lot of things in
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the council and for those of you
that maybe follow it or watch on the
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YouTube channel. There's so many aspects
to being on that council and things that
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you that you do, from renaming
streets to h putting putting streets on overlay
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list, which is something but you
all the way up to like moratoriums and
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things of that nature, or you
know, controlling growth as much as you
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can from that from that aspect to
even uh, you know, widening a
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servitude or there's so many things you've
done in eight years. It's a lot
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of work, it is. I
mean, sometimes it's you know, we
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change laws and then we have a
couple of issues that might say, yeah,
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maybe we need to back off of
that a little bit, or maybe
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we didn't go quite far enough.
And you know, I mean, you
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you can't always get it right the
first time, that's right, you know,
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so you just kind of trial and
error type thing and you hope you
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get it right the first time.
But uh, and sometimes while you're doing
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this, you have some things that
slip in that you didn't really want to
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slip in, but you have to
do it the right way to stop them.
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Yeah, and you have to work
with other members of the council.
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And and that's something that's that's very
important to keep in mind, is you
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could have the perfect plan and the
best intentions for the parish, but there
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has to be a majority that sees
it that way in order to get anything
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done. Yeah. And look,
I've I've talked to a o of these
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candidates is running for these new council
seats. Yeah, and I was telling
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them to be very careful, but
you promise telling them what you're gonna do,
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because if you don't have four other
councilmen that agree with what you want
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to do, it's not happening.
That's right, that's right. It's a
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majority rules. And the biggest difference
being between a councilmen and the administrative side
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is just that they administrate what you
put into law. Obviously, from a
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parish president's standpoint, you have what
they call a veto power and you can
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veto that, but believe it or
not, that can then go back to
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the council and they can override that
veto with a certain amount of that.
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And look, that's one of the
things that I've been preaching on the campaign
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trail is you know, everybody asked
me, are you gonna stop development?
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Yeah? You know, well,
look, parish president doesn't have that authority.
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Yeah, no, he just does. He cannot stop development, you
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know, Paris president's job is to
make sure that they f all of the
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rules. You know, he does
have a power to veto something, but
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the council can override it. So
ultimately, your power is in your council.
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That's why you have nine people,
you need five votes. It's a
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checks and balance right there. And
he keeps the parish from having a dictator
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that dictates everything that happens in our
parish. That's right, you know.
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I mean, that's that's why a
council system was invented and put into play.
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Well. And one thing I will
say about you that I picked up
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just from you being on the campaign
trail and speaking at various places is you're
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not a dictator. As a matter
of fact, a lot of what you
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say is the total opposite of that. One of the things I know you're
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a big believer in is is finding
the right people and letting them do what
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they do. And you know,
you're coming into an administration should you be
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elected, where some people may stay, some people may go, but and
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then it becomes your job to make
sure that you have good people around you,
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and that's what you have to do. You have to surround yourself with
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good people and then you have to
let them do their job. Yeah.
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If I have to stand over their
shoulders and see what they're doing, then
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I didn't make a good hire.
Yeah, you know, I've got to
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go find them people that we need
in our parish that can help us do
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the right job. Bring the money, Go find us grant money that can
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help our parish, you know,
go go find new technology that can help
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our parish. You know, I
do think we have a great finance lady
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that does our finances for the parish. She does an awesome job. I
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believe me and ear can work together. I think she's done an awesome job
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to Jennifer, Yes, you know, done a good job. I mean,
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I think there's a lot of them
that I hope they stay. But
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I'm the type of guy that I'm
gonna walk in day one and say who's
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leaving? Yeah, And I'm not
going to talk people into staying because if
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you have doubt of working for me, you have doubt, that's right.
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Yeah, that's the last thing you
want, right, I want someone that
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believes in me. So I can
believe in them and we can work in
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a good team environment and work for
this parish. When you go in there,
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let's talk about that for a second. You go in there, it's
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day one and boom you your parish
president. What is what is kind of
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your first goal that you would like
to accomplish? Well, I mean the
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first thing is going to be employees. Yeah, I mean the hands down
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you you you got to make sure
that all the departments have the personnel they
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need to continue providing the services for
the constituents of this parish. Yeah,
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you know, so, I mean, hands down, that's first. Uh.
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And then it's you know, going
and working with each department individual.
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I've had always said that what I
would like to do is spend a week,
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two weeks in each department. Yeah, go work with them, Go
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see what they do on a daily
basis, Understand how each department works,
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what they're having to work with.
What can we come up with to make
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it better too, so they can
provide better services. So it's definitely going
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to be within the administration itself,
working in each of these departments. Sure,
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trying to figure all that out.
I mean, we gotta you know,
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is our equipment outdated, you know
that we need to look into that
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or you know, I mean one
of the things I would love to see
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in DPW is put iPads with our
supervisors. Yeah, so little technology,
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little technology, you know, and
when they go out there and do a
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work order, they can enter it. The moment they're finished, the constituent
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gets an email, the administration gets
an email, the counselman gets an email,
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and everybody that's involved knows, hey, this is completed, thank you
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cam. Yeah. You know,
look my bug guy has an iPad.
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Yeah, so yeah, they definitely
need to get that. And uh and
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I think that's something while you're on
that subject of technology, it's something that
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you really bring to the table.
Is is a new kind of like a
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new vision and a new technology side
to yourself that you can yes, and
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you can go back and look at
the council. We're in the process of
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rolling into that technology. You know, we're using iPads, we're using an
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electronic voting system that we're slowly working
towards. One of the things that I
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love about it is it does kind
of stop most of the councilmen from just
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speaking out when they shouldn't speak out. I can't say that it stops all
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of them, right, but you
know there's a request to speak, but
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you know it will help meetings run
like they're supposed to run. And it
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just shows the power of technology.
I grew and I've always said, you
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know, when I started out in
my business, we were handwriting stuff.
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He was probably doing the same thing. We would go order material, we
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had to handwrite all of it.
We did an estimate, we had to
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handwrite every bit of it. And
we slowly worked into technology, you know,
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from the more. I mean,
it was so new that when they
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set a computer on my desk,
I had to figure out how to turn
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it on. Yes, you know
where now I can't. I can't even
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function when out a computer. Yeah, I know, my computer goes down.
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I'm lost. Yeah, you know, and I'm that bridge. Yeah,
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I understill understand old school, but
I see the vision of new school
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and new technology, and I think
that's perfect. That's a that's a great
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marriage because uh, you know,
I if the new technology were to fail,
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you know what to do. And
but you definitely everything is leaning towards
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that. You really need someone in
that position that can handle that understands that
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grasp the advantages of that, Yeah, because at the end of the day,
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it's gonna save you a lot of
money, a lot of time.
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Yes, there's no doubt you're at
MMR MMR. What do you do for
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them? I'm a site manager farm. I've been at the same chemical plant
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for twenty seven years for most of
classics. Yeah, I run all of
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their major projects of electrical and instrumentation
projects. We have their instrument maintenance.
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We actually have a huge project expansion
going on right now. We have a
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little over two hundred employees in the
plant, so I get phone calls all
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day long. You still can imagine
it, Yes, you know, I
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mean, and you know I've deal
with project management. I deal with planning
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and scheduling, Yeah, estimating material
ordering, writing contracts, negotiating contracts,
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policies and procedures. I mean,
everything you deal with as a parent,
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as a paris president, I do
it on that at that scale. I
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mean, I've run from two thousand
dollar jobs to twenty million dollar jobs.
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Yeah. I sometimes will have twenty
jobs at one time going on. Yeah,
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you know, I have a board
at my office, and I mean
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my supervisors will walk in and when
that board's full, they just dropped their
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head and walk out, you know, because it's like, well we can
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we never can catch up. Well, look, we're in the business of
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making money. So if that board's
full, we're making money. If that
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board's empty, people are going home
right. Well, and look, it's
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a skill that that from a parish
president's standpoint, will do nothing but benefit
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you, especially with the planning and
scheduling aspect of that and the ability to
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multitask, which is extremely important in
a role as a parish president. I
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would imagine you've seen things from a
councilman's side, and I'm sure as in
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councilman you've sat back and sat in
that chair and you've thought, I wish
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ministration would do this, or you
know, they could do this, Betterer,
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or if I were in that role, maybe I could bring this to
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the table. What would you say, is something U that you're going to
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bring to the administrative side that maybe
currently not necessarily missing, but that you
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have some experiencing you would like to
see change. Teamwork. Yeah, teamwork
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with parish president and the council makes
the dream work it, I mean,
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that's how it should work. You
know. As a parish president, I'm
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going I plan on being very very
accessible. Yeah, I will be at
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council meetings. They are the most
important meeting for our parish. I will
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be there. If I cannot attend, it won't be just somebody named to
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be there. It will be someone
with authority. Yeah, that can make
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a decision just like me if it's
asked of them, right, you know,
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and we we're we've just lost that
teamwork environment in our parish from not
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just between the parish president and the
council, the state reps working with each
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other, the state reps working with
the administration, administration working with the council,
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the council working with state reps that's
working with the senator. Like,
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we just don't have that teamwork environment
that we're all working for one goal to
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make live Exton Parish better. You
just nailed it. And and you know,
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uh, your state reps and senators
and all that they all play a
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role in parish and very important that
you have a working relationship. But you
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don't have to play golf with them
on the weekends or whatever, but have
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a working relationship and a dialogue that
that is professional and and uh, you'd
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be amazing once you can accomplish and
they're they're working. It's not like they're
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not doing their job. It's just
what's the old saying, You don't one
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hand doesn't know what the other hand
is doing. And it's kind of that
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field in our government that you know, we could be at the council fighting
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for school impact fees. You know, that's something that's kind of on the
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table right now. And you could
have some state reps that know about two
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million dollars grand out there for schools. Yes, and it's not communicated to
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us, that's right, you know. Are we don't have someone going to
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their office and saying, hey,
right now we're talking about schools, is
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there any money here that we might
be able to get? Yeah, And
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you know that's something that I have
said, you know, I definitely will
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have liaison with state reps to work
with them on a day to day basis
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be able to bring us back any
grant money, any information, anything that
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can help the parish. That's huge
and and something that we've talked about early
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early on in your in your candidacy
was something that I don't know if I
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call it. I saw a hole
in it, but I would have loved
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to have seen more access to grants
because the problem is grants are out there,
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but you got to dig them up. They don't just pop in your
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lap most of the time. And
and you know, there are some some
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ways of paying for things, and
yes, you have to have matches,
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and a twenty million dollar grant is
great, but if you don't have the
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ten million dollars to get the twenty
million dollar grant, it's worthless. But
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there's some out there that you may
get your hands on if you have someone
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like you say, a liaison talking
with these reps and finding these things.
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So shout shout out for a good
job in thinking about that. Now.
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One of the concerns that a lot
of residents have as of late is,
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uh, animal shelters expensive, very
expensive. I mean, look to do
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a true animal shelter right now,
we would need about two million dollars to
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get it rolling in the right direction. Is that money there possible? Yeah?
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Can we get it every year?
I don't know. Yeah, you
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know, I mean sometimes it's easy
to go squeeze and cut this out,
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cut that out, and yeah,
we could come up with it the first
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year, but then the following years
might be hard. I have a couple
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of ideas that I've met with the
Humane Society with. I pitched it to
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them. They liked it. It's
ways to generate money for an animal shelter,
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yeah, without raising taxes. You
know, it's basically like fundraisers,
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you know, to to help our
animal shelter. You know, one of
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my ideas would be to raise money
to just do spade and neutering clinics with
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free spade and neutering. Yeah,
you know, there's another idea that would
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help fun animal control. The money
would go to it. You know,
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we actually have some new money that's
still a little hush hush because we haven't
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gotten kind of our first round that
we possibly could use that money to help
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go into animal shelter. Yeah.
Really, we have two new sources that's
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probably fixing us start hitting the budget
and we'll help us out. And I'm
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sure all that will be released next
year and you know, when we finally
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get that first round of it,
very good. And so it's something that's
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on your radar, and yeah,
definitely something that that you're looking into and
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trying to get a resolution on.
And you know, there's a lot of
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other issues out there. One of
them and I want to kind of get
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into this a little bit. Is
the moratorium that's kind of been to talk
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as of late and initially this there
was a moratorium introduced by several councilmen.
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That was a year long deal.
Yeah, that other councilmen didn't think it
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was necessarily fair. There was some
issues with that. Let's talk about it
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a little bit, all right,
Well, let's let's do a little timeline
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on it. So, uh,
last year we had a moratorium while we
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were rewriting the Section one twenty five
was our building Ordinance. So I think
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we were shut down for about sixty
days for that one yea Ordnance committee was
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working once twice a week. I
mean, we were We're not gonna let
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it drag around. We got after
it, we went to work. We
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changed everything we could. You know, we didn't want to shut our business
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down too long. Right, we
opened it back up. We do have
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a few things that we, like
I said earlier, we have to go
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back and tweak it, you know, necessarily get it right the first time.
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We actually we need a development built
under the new code so we can
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see if it works. Yeah,
you know, but in the meantime of
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that happening, right after we finished
that, we get hit with carbon capture.
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We start dealing with carbon capture the
whole time we're trying to implement zoning.
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Yeah, you know, we're doing
what we can to implement zoning.
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We're trying to hurry up and get
zoning because this will help us with all
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of this stuff. It would have
helped us with carbon capture, it would
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have helped us with development. I
mean, it wouldn't have stopped it.
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It had just been another tool for
us. You know. Well, there
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were four of us. We just
as soon as we got our maps,
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we went through there. We we
did what we thought was the right thing
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to procedure to make it low.
We put it in place, and then
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deer run comes along. Deer Run
gets in right before we kind of enacted
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the moratorium last time, and it
become a legal issue. Yeah, well
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we thought, you know, I
mean, I voted for District fives owning
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maps. I knew that it was
on our one where dear Rum was going,
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which is one acre lots. Yeah. The problem is is when they
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went to federal district judge, they
said Matt wasn't brought in the law properly
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following state statue. So it's unenforceable. Yeah, no and void. Well,
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to me, we can't win a
lawsuit, right, there's no way
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we can win a lawsuit, you
know. So, I mean, you
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got a judge signing us, signing
something telling us that which I haven't sitting
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right here. You know. So
we are offered a settlement. The first
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settlement they give to us, we
denied it. We asked for more time
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so we could study it. Well
I did that. Yeah, you know,
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we're gonna study it. Okay,
Well I'm gonna take it home and
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I'm gonna study it. Yeah,
you're gonna read it. You know.
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So when we were offered the next
settlement, because there was a few more
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it's shoes that happened with judge and
follow another motion, and uh, the
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judge finally just come out and said, uh, we don't have a dog
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in the hunt, and they were
not going to allow their courtroom to be
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used for political grand standing. Yeah, so just finally said we had enough
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of it. Yeah, you know, well, when the settlement comes to
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us, there was a lot of
good things that come out of the settlement.
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Everybody preaches about the fourth entrance.
I mean, look, it's just
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a fourth entrance. To me,
I don't see where that's that big of
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a deal. But you know,
if it was going out on another road,
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you know, and you could make
the traffic go in different directions,
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I would say it being a big
deal. But I mean, fourth Entrance
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is one of them six hundred acres
along the river. I'm sorry, twelve
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hundred acres along the river. Two
six hundred acre tracks cannot be touched.
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Yeah, that's that's gonna be stay
just like it is. They originally had
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a b of apartments in the in
the center of it. They changed that
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to town homes. I think I
don't remember what the number, but it
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was all I know it was less
than half. It dropped from apartments to
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town homes, and the town homes
are going to be sold, not rented.
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They also had to follow our new
ordinances, so they were going to
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do the twenty percent reduction on the
drainage, you know, all of that
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stuff. So I'm so they're not
only not only are they not changing it,
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they're improving, improving it, Yeah, improving it. So and then
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there was the same developer is also
the one doing their subdivision that was down
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in the French selimentary well, part
of the settlement. And I'll give credit
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to mister Gerald mc morris. It
was approved for like six over six hundred
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homes. Yeah, approved, They
were ready to start building. Yeah.
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Mister McMorris went to the table forum
said hey, I want you to cut
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this down one hundred twenty five.
I want two acre lots yea minimum.
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They agreed to it. Wow.
So I feel like he stepped up for
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his people and said, you know, hey, I'm gonna get the best
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deal I can for the people that
I represent. And he and he did
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that, you know, and there's
some people don't agree with it, you
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know, but I'm looking at it
as a whole. Yeah. You know,
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with what all we got from dear
run, you knocked Hilaire down,
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which is gonna that helps the school
system. It's not in many homes,
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you know, that helps everything that
it would have impacted. You know,
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it helps traffic. That's last cars
on the road. So to me,
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that French Settlement area and it we'll
bring some industry out there, just with
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right people that are coming, people
that's coming. So I felt like Council
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McMorris. McMorris made a good deal
for the people down there, you know,
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dear Run seemed to be. It
could have been way worse. I
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mean, there's twelve hundred acres that
could have possibly been developed, right,
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that's not being developed, right.
You know, they didn't have to do
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twenty percent reduction, you know,
so the people below it would have flooded
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worse than what they are. You
know. There there's a lot of things
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that came of it that was good. So we agree. Five of us
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voted on that settlement, right,
we vote on it. The same night
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the moratorium that the that four councilmen
were proposing was on the table. It
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originally started off as a two year
moratorium that got dropped down to a one
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year moratorium. Yeah, and it
was on everything. Fifty lots and above.
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Our hundred acres are bigger. Yeah. The problem is is in the
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settlement there's a clause that reads,
if you vote to accept the settlement,
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you could not vote for a moratorium
that could be imposed on Deer Run,
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or you would personally be a breach
of contract. Well, mister McMorris didn't
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know about it. He voted for
the moratorium, yeah, and it got
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him in some trouble. Yeah,
you know, now he's gotten out of
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it. He's done the right thing. He handled it. That's a discussion
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for him. I don't want to
get in his business, but that's where
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we're at. Yeah, you know, that's what got us kind of back
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and forth on it. I knew
it was there, you know, because
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I had read the original agreement.
So when they brought the new proposal to
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us, I only had to read
like a page right because I already knew
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what the other the rest of it
said. I just wanted to know what
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all the new stuff was, so
I knew that was in there. And
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I went to mister villa Vasso,
which is the professional that we hired.
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Yeah, and I say, hey, we need we need another moratorium.
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We need one that can opt this
development. But it won't. It won't
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it can be imposed on Dear Run
because of this contract. But we can
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still stop all the new stuff.
Let's let's do something to stop that.
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The one year was a problem.
I said, let's go to the second
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meeting of the new council. Let
them get in there and get their feet
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wet, and then at the second
meeting they can then make the decision do
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they want to extend the moratorium o
our zoning implemented. We don't need it
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any longer because it simply says one
hundred and sixty days are until zoning is
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implemented. Right, So if they
get zoning done next month, moratorium is
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over with, right, you know. But that's what we're doing. That's
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how moratorium works. You have to
have a reason. Our reasoning is zoning.
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We need it fixed, we need
it implemented. So they might come
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up the next meeting and say we
need Balabasso might tell me needs sixty more
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days. They extended for sixty days. Yeah, but he has told me
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that he feels like at that meaning
he will be able to give them an
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exact time. Yeah. Yea hey
I need sixty days. I need thirty
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days. Yeah. And and from
my standpoint, and following this closely,
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I think your your your plan was
perfect. The issues I have with the
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original moratorium or the length number one
I didn't look. If you need a
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year to get that stuff straight to
me, that's that that's an issue with
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the council. If it takes you
a year, okay, So I hope
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that didn't insult anybody out there.
But if it takes you a year to
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get that stuff resolve, you probably
don't need to be on the council,
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that's my opinion. One hundred and
sixty days also fit because you have a
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new council coming in and that new
council, for example, your seat will
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be empty. Whoever fills your seat, they may or may not want to
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proceed the same way you did.
Well, you're forcing that on them if
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you if you do it the other
way. So I commend you for coming
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up with that, working with the
planner, which is the person who's the
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professional in that, and making it
happen. You know, it's important.
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That is the hardest thing from a
council standpoint, in my opinion you probably
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agree, is how do you control
growth without overgrowing to the point that uh,
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it's just heywire out there with with
this traffic, you're always probably going
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to be a little behind on infrastructure
versus growth. And we've already been behind
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on infrastructure for thirty years yeah way
before, you know, I mean way
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before. I might have been the
only one that was in politics back now
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as cars on the council right now, Yes, here's the bubble us too,
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Yeah you know, but he's no
longer with us. But I mean,
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look, the subdivisions that we're having
problems with right now. There were
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no rules when they were built.
Yeah, they are the ones that were
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built thirty years ago, twenty five
years ago, twenty years ago. We
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have rules now, they're following rules
now. It's these older subdivisions that are
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the problems. That's right. I
didn't approve one of them. Yeah,
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I wasn't a council I was not
there when I came in. It was
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right away. We need rules,
we need rules, And I'll tell you
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why. I lived on Buddy Ellis
yea, and when I lived there,
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they started building woodland crossing in my
backyard. I have been through it.
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I moved and I ran for a
council seat to try and make a difference.
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I have been where other people are. I know what it's like to
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feel like this is my forever home
and then all of a sudden, you
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have a subdivision built around you.
But if we don't do it legally and
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do it the proper way, we're
gonna get sued all the time and we
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cannot win. Yeah. I'm trying
to make it to where we do have
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something to stand on. Yeah.
Unfortunately, there's a couple of subdivisions that
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got through. Yeah, there's always
gonna be that last one. That's right,
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that last one that got through.
And I you know, and I
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know you don't want it to be
in your backyard. You would rather it
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in someone else's backyard. We don't, we don't control that. It just
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happens to be. That's the ones
that got through. You know. I
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wish we could stop them. I
wish we could do more, but what
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it would cost us in legal fees
and fighting it, and it's we just
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we can't win. Yeah, we
can't win. That's right. And uh,
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you know you've said it many times
and you know throughout your campaign,
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and that is you're going to follow
the rules. And uh and if you
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follow the rules and you're on the
right side of the law, you know,
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you're okay, okay, and you're
a rule follower. And that's it.
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I mean, I've always been like
that, you know. I mean,
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and it's like I said, in
my world, you know, we're
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in the electrical business. There are
rules there to keep people alive so they
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can go home to their families.
That's right. One one mistake by not
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00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:31.799
following the rules commnial life, I
mean your life, you know, and
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and that's what's trained me of how
to think. You know, I'm responsible
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for every person that walks through them
gates under my direction. Yeah, and
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if somebody doesn't go home to their
family that night, I'm at fault.
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Yeah. So I preach follow the
rules. Yeah, I don't care whether
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you agree with them or you don't. You follow the rules, and I'm
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the same way. That's lucky,
can't fault. That's exactly what you want
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out of your elected officials. And
I want to ask you. You mentioned
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also in your time here in your
campaign about a super board and and UH
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kind of tell us about that.
Yeah. So once I, like I
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00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.119
said earlier, I didn't know everything
when I took office. Uh, and
436
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I started realizing all these different boards
and committees were over and you appoint to
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this board and that board. And
UH realized that at the time we had
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five drainage districts and we have since
combined combined two of them over on the
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east side in southeast southwestern part of
the parish all into one, right you
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know, So that's called US District
eight. And then we have the one
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in Watson one and Walker and one
in Diental right to them three are funded.
442
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.599
Yeah, they have funds, which
means two thirds of our parish is
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unfunded. Right, let's say that
again, two thirds of our paris is
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unfunded. Uh, And we got
to fix that, you know. We
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to do that, we need to
go talk to the people over there and
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figure out what do they believe is
affordable, what do they believe is the
447
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.880
right thing to do, And we
do that by showing them a plan.
448
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:20.679
Yeah, this is what we're going
to do. This is how we will
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fix it with you helping us,
you know, because I look, I've
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seen where they go out and try
to clean a canal out, and they
451
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.599
could have fixed it easily by just
talking to the guy that lives there,
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right, you know, And and
we need to have that communication with our
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constituents. Yeah. But what I
noticed is, you know, I have
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somebody on the Walker district, you
know, I point to people on that
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one, and then I have the
District eight, and I'm realizing neither one
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00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:57.599
of them knows much at all about
the other one. And I actually have
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00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.239
one on the Watson board too,
you know, So with me dealing with
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00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:07.000
three different districts, there's no communication. Yeah, they don't have a clue
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what each ones are doing right.
So you might have a canal that starts
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00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.039
in Watson, goes through Walker and
then ends up in the district eight.
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00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:20.480
Yeah, well Walker decides to clean
their portion out, which is in the
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center and twenty twenty four and it's
twenty twenty six before Watson decides to clean
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00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.639
the northern part of it out.
Yeah. Where if we created this super
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00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.800
board, Well, we have one
guy from each district this on this board,
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they can have a quarterly meeting just
to let each one know what they're
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00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.199
working on, what they're fixing to
work on. Well, they might realize
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00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.519
when you know what, since you're
working on Beaver Creek. It starts in
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Watson and comes through Walker, and
then it wounds up into Koyel that goes
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down into eight. How about we
all work on that canal at the same
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time and we clean it from top
to bottom. Sounds like a great unde.
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00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:04.400
Yeah, it's just about communication.
Yeah, that's all it is.
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It's communication. I think it's a
I think it's a great idea in communication
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going a long way towards solving problems. Yes, and what would you say,
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00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.800
Uh, was some of the best
advice you've ever got on leadership.
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00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.039
I probably would say just being accessible, yeah, you know, being accessible
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to the people that work under your
direction and to the people you're working far
477
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.400
Yeah. You know, as a
leader, you're you're that bridge. You
478
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:37.679
are You're that bridge between the workers
and the people you're doing the work far
479
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right. And and I've kind of
always I mean, look, you can
480
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ask the guys that work for me
at the plant. Very seldom do you
481
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:50.039
see my door shut? Yeah,
yeah, they come in. I have
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a big open area where they come
in right outside my office and they have
483
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their lunch breaks, and you know, and my door's always open. I
484
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.440
can be said then my desk and
talking to them while they're out there.
485
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If they you know, they could
just walk up there and ask me a
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question, you know, And I'm
I'm like that. I just make sure
487
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:15.679
I'm accessible to everybody that that I'm
in that leadership role far yeah, you
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00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:22.320
know, so I try to make
sure that you know you and you need
489
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to see that in me. Yeah, that I am that guy that you
490
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.559
can just come up and talk to. I would agree with that. And
491
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:32.280
and something that you know, you've
made a commitment several times in your campaign
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about you're gonna be at council meetings
and you're gonna be involved. And if
493
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you can't personally be there, you're
gonna have someone who can make a decision
494
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.360
be there. And that is also
a form of leadership. It's you know,
495
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.960
and it's also you need to be
informed of what those guys are doing
496
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at all times. And yeah,
and I even say, you know,
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being you The last podcast talked about
this that you know, Look, I'm
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the type of guy I want to
be the best whatever I do. My
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00:38:01.880 --> 00:38:06.840
goal is be better than whoever was
there before me. Yep, you know,
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00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:10.320
So whatever the standards are, the
people think is was the best parish
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00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:14.880
president we had, I'm going to
leave office being better. You go,
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00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.000
you know, they set the bar. I know where I need to go,
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00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:21.960
and I'm gonna make sure i'm better, you know. And I've always
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00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:25.039
been like that in life, you
know, from sports and high school to
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00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:29.920
wanting to be the best athlete on
the field, you know, to when
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00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.159
I started coaching, you know,
I got into baseball. I wasn't a
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00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.239
big baseball player as a kid,
but my son liked baseball, and I
508
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.760
went and learned everything I could about
baseball so I could coach him. Yeah,
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you know, we did tournament ball, we won state titles, we
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won a world series. I mean, anything that somebody told me I could
511
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not do because I was from Livingston
Parish, I proved them wrong. Yeah,
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00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.480
so oh yes I can, and
I'm gonna do it with Livingston Parish
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kids love that. And that's what
I did. Yeah, it's huge.
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00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:01.760
And and uh, you know,
let's let's talk for a second about because
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00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.960
you didn't always We said this a
little bit in the last podcast, but
516
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.719
you didn't always want to be in
politics, Like that's something that you kind
517
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.599
of morphed into. And and and
here you said, who would have thought?
518
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:21.920
And uh, you know, your
opponent, just to bring your opponent
519
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.719
up for a second, is has
been in politics a long time, and
520
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:30.559
you represent a change. You're you're
a change from from that. And I
521
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.400
think that's it's important to mention that
you are not in this just for four
522
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.480
years. You're in this for the
long haul. A matter of fact,
523
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:42.079
when you and I talked last time, you said, I fully intend to
524
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.840
serve as long as people will let
me. I mean, you know we
525
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.039
have term limits the learners. I
could go as three terms, twelve years.
526
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:51.039
Uh you know, I mean and
if I was here for twelve years,
527
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:52.719
i'd only be sixty five years old. Yeah still, you know,
528
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:58.320
I mean, I'm I'm kind of
what I consider the prime of my career,
529
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.519
which kind of is the backside.
But that's when you really get the
530
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:07.159
most out of people because they have
the knowledge at that point to really give
531
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.320
you what you're paying for. Yeah, you know, and that's where I'm
532
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:15.280
at. With what I've learned in
my industry and my years of just going
533
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.199
out there and hustling, I can
bring that to the parish. Well,
534
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:23.199
it's and it's hard, Jeff,
to implement a vision in four years,
535
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:28.239
very hard. I don't even know
if it's as possible. I've even told
536
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:32.239
people this, you know. I
feel like getting reelected the first time should
537
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:37.760
be easy for anyone. Yeah,
because you've had four years to start making
538
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:44.559
changes, showing people that you're trying, You're trying to make the difference and
539
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:49.199
they see it. It's that third
term that's the hard one, because that
540
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.599
third term you better have proven that
the changes you made are working. Yes,
541
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:59.639
you know, That's That's how I've
looked at term limits. You know,
542
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:04.639
you know, your first term you
show the changes, the second term
543
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:07.760
you make them work. Yeah,
if you're gonna get that third one,
544
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.719
it better be working, that's right. If you get that third one,
545
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.920
that means the people are happy and
they approve of the job you've done because
546
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:21.119
they know that you know that third
term is is it for you? So
547
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.920
the gloves are kind of off,
and you know, you the last thing
548
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:29.119
you wanted someone in the office that
can just go haywire and do whatever they
549
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.760
want because they have no they have
no plans to run again, right,
550
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.000
So what does it matter if you
don't like what I'm doing? Uh?
551
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.760
You know, short of impeaching me, there's not a whole lot you can
552
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.960
do about it. No, you
can't know what I mean. Look,
553
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.960
and that was kind of one of
the things that I kind of didn't like
554
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.559
about term limits because you run into
that, you get to where a guy
555
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:54.800
gets elected for his last term,
he can't run anymore. Yeah he's done.
556
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:00.159
You can't get rid of him.
Yeah, I'm gonna ride out these
557
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.000
last four years and I'm gone,
Yeah I'm done. Where if we didn't
558
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.639
have term limits, they would still
have to work for you because they want
559
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.880
it again. Yeah, you know, but we have term limits. You
560
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.400
know, I voted to put it
on the ballot because I think the people
561
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had the right to decide that well. And and and I will say that
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00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:23.400
you know, by the time you
get around of that third term, in
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my opinion, if you're someone that
for eight years have been doing the right
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00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.960
thing and pushing yourself, you're probably
gonna push through that last term regardless.
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00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.840
And uh, you know, there's
the sad thing for me about term limits
566
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is sometimes you lose people you don't
want to lose, Yeah, and you
567
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:43.199
can't do anything about it. And
I hate that. We're fortunate here in
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Livingston Parish, right, so we
have a lot of people here. We
569
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have a lot of knowledge in our
parish. Yeah, you know, we
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have a lot of businessmen in our
parish. There's a lot of people that
571
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.280
stand up. The issue is there's
a lot of them that don't want to
572
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.920
deal with it. Yes, you
know, a lot of it has to
573
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.400
do with social media. Yes,
you know, they don't want to put
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their family through that. They just
don't want to have to. You know,
575
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:07.800
they're worried about it hurting their business
and it's causing good people to not
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00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:12.679
stand up and run. It can
help our parish. That's right, and
577
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.159
then you get these smaller parishes,
which I look back to when I was
578
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.840
a kid, how Livingston Parish was
and you didn't have many people to choose
579
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:22.360
from. Yeah, you know,
and it's been said, you know,
580
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:27.840
we've kind of had the same people
running our parish for the past thirty forty
581
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.360
years. You know, this,
this transition that is going on now to
582
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:37.960
the next generation, should have happened
fifteen years ago, but we just we
583
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:43.280
got so used to the same names, the same people. Oh well they
584
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:47.840
got it, well, they got
it, and our generation didn't step up
585
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:53.199
fast enough. And now we are
and we're getting there and we're trying to
586
00:43:53.239 --> 00:44:01.239
take over. And really I think
my raceist probably the only one that the
587
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:07.119
old generation could still hold on.
Yeah, you know, other than that
588
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.000
all, you know, I mean, look, I love mister Rogers Pope
589
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.440
to death. He has done unbelievable
work for our parish, you know,
590
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.559
but you know, he's he's gone, he's he's retiring, he's out,
591
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.679
you know. So that's one of
the older guys that's been doing it forever
592
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.719
that you know, we just we
trust him. He's been here forever,
593
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:29.599
He's always done what the people wanted. A great guy, mister Bubba Harris.
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00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.639
You know, I mean he's out, he's done, he's been doing
595
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.880
it forever. Yeah, you know, just these last few older guys are
596
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.360
still they're just now kind of giving
it up, right, and it's it's
597
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:45.280
time for us to take over.
I agree, I agree, and and
598
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.360
uh and you're doing it and out
there working every day, working hard.
599
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.199
And that's why we like to put
these podcasts out is because we want people
600
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:58.800
to be able to see who who
these guys are. Outside of ten minutes
601
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:02.119
they get to speak somewhere uh that
you know, that's great for the fast
602
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:06.519
you know, answers to questions,
but it's hard to learn who they are.
603
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.360
And speaking of that, you know, you don't have a lot of
604
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.320
spare time, but you have some
Uh what do you like to do outside
605
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:19.079
of you know, mmr and and
uh sitting on the council and doing all
606
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.960
this work for the parish. Well, I love the hunting fish. Yeah,
607
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.760
you know, when I can find
the time, I love the hunting
608
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.480
fish. I have a granddaughter that
you know, sometimes I'm in a swimming
609
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.880
pool with her. You know,
I'm fortunate that my son has the house
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next to me. Yeah, and
you know, I get to see my
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granddaughter a lot, so I do
that a lot. I mean, look,
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when you see jeff Ard, if
he's got a drink in his hand,
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it's gonna be a water or a
diet coat. It's not gonna be
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a beer or whiskey. Yeah.
You know, Uh, you're not gonna
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see him in a ballroom on Saturday
night because he gets something, goes to
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church on Sunday mornings at Revival Temple. Yeah. You know. I've tell
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this to people all the time.
I'm gonna work for the people, but
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I serve my Lord and Savior.
Love it, love it. And uh
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and say what do you like to
hunt? What's your favorite? There's my
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favorite. And it's mainly because it's
an opportunity to me for sit in peace
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and quiet. As my wife says, I love to find the hunting camp.
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Water sales service doesn't work. Yeah, you know, and just just
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be with nature and just sit there
and have my time to really just reflect.
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I'm good at fishing, yeah,
but I get too competitive fishing.
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You know. When I start fishing, next thing, you know, I'm
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looking for a tournament to get in. Uh, you know, I want
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people on the boat with me and
start talking smack back and forth to each
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other. You know, but hunting
is definitely my peaceful time. I love
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it, man, I love it. And look appreciate you coming on and
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and uh, you know, get
in office and win this race, and
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you'd come back anytime, and just
give the people an update on what's going
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on and in Livingston Parish from your
office. Yeah, and just make sure
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everybody knows. September thirtieth, Yes, early voting starts. It runs for
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a week. You can go to
the down Springs Walker branch right there at
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Eden Church and vote, or you
can go to the tax accessor building by
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the courthouse and vote yea. And
then elections October fourteenth. And look October
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fourteenth, it's a busy day for
our parish. We have an election.
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It's gonna be the Saturday of the
Fair. Yes, I think there's a
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trade show going on at v Watts
that day. Oh, so there's a
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lot of stuff gonna be happening in
our parish on October fourteenth. So if
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you can early vote, early vote, I agree, I agree, And
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I know some people out there they
have that tradition. May you know,
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we vote on election day and that
and that's fine because those people typically going
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to vote no matter what. But
if you have any any sort of hesitation,
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just just vote early. Look,
there's no pressure. You get a
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library whenever you want during opening hours
and they'll let you vote. And uh,
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and there's rarely any line because it's
gonna be a big election, big
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leagon this year and winding down,
we wish you all the luck. Uh,
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please comment if if you got any
questions, and I'll make sure I
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get him to Jeff, so just
comment on the podcast and and uh maybe
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we'll get him to answer some of
those questions. And I appreciate you coming
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on as always, Thank you for
having Until next time, I'm Jim Chapman
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reminding you love your community, support
local business, keep leading. Thank you very much
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Hey everyone, and welcome back to
another edition of Local Leaders the podcast.
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This is our link up Livingston edition
and we have a man. You're an
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most of co host. You've been
here several times. Yeah, it's jeff
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Ard and long campaign road you're wrapping
up right now four weeks la. Right
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at four weeks. Wow. Man, you've been going and going. Every
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time I pull up Facebook, I
see you at another event. And one
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thing I want to credit you for
right off the bat is you are making
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yourself available. I saw you just
did, and I'd invite anyone to go
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check out the Coffee with the Candidates
podcasts that was done in conjunction with the
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Livingston Parish News. I thought you
did a great job answering questions at that
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one. And we're gonna cover some
of what you talked about there today and
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just cover some other other interesting information. And I think it was a couple
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of months ago you did one me
originally. It's got a ton of you,
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So thank you everyone out there for
watching. Mad. Let me ask
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you right off the bat, you're
running for parish president, which, uh,
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if you don't know that right by
now, you've been living under a
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rock and uh you've been a councilman
for eight years, m eighth year,
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right, now, Yeah, how's
that been? It? Very education to
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education. Yes, you know,
it definitely wasn't everything that I thought it
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was when I when I first ran, you know, because I had an
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uncle that was a police juryman,
and and I kind of still looked at
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it a little bit in a as
a police jury system once I got in
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there and realized a little bit more
about how it truly is ran with the
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parish president and the council and realizing
that, you know, the council is
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a legislative body. Yeah, you
know, we write the laws, but
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uh, you know, people do
not work under our direction. Yeah,
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they work under administration's direction, you
know. And I just you know,
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I can remember people calling my uncle
and say hey, I need my ditch,
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Doug, and he'd go walk inside
because we didn't have cell phones.
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Then he'd make a phone call and
say, hey, I need y'all to
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go clean that ditch tomorrow. Doesn't
work like that now, no, No,
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it's a lot more to it,
a lot more to it, to
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say the least. And and y'all
been working on a lot of things in
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the council and for those of you
that maybe follow it or watch on the
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YouTube channel. There's so many aspects
to being on that council and things that
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you that you do, from renaming
streets to h putting putting streets on overlay
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list, which is something but you
all the way up to like moratoriums and
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things of that nature, or you
know, controlling growth as much as you
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can from that from that aspect to
even uh, you know, widening a
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servitude or there's so many things you've
done in eight years. It's a lot
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of work, it is. I
mean, sometimes it's you know, we
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change laws and then we have a
couple of issues that might say, yeah,
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maybe we need to back off of
that a little bit, or maybe
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we didn't go quite far enough.
And you know, I mean, you
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you can't always get it right the
first time, that's right, you know,
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so you just kind of trial and
error type thing and you hope you
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get it right the first time.
But uh, and sometimes while you're doing
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this, you have some things that
slip in that you didn't really want to
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slip in, but you have to
do it the right way to stop them.
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Yeah, and you have to work
with other members of the council.
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And and that's something that's that's very
important to keep in mind, is you
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could have the perfect plan and the
best intentions for the parish, but there
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has to be a majority that sees
it that way in order to get anything
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done. Yeah. And look,
I've I've talked to a o of these
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candidates is running for these new council
seats. Yeah, and I was telling
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them to be very careful, but
you promise telling them what you're gonna do,
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because if you don't have four other
councilmen that agree with what you want
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to do, it's not happening.
That's right, that's right. It's a
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majority rules. And the biggest difference
being between a councilmen and the administrative side
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is just that they administrate what you
put into law. Obviously, from a
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parish president's standpoint, you have what
they call a veto power and you can
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veto that, but believe it or
not, that can then go back to
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the council and they can override that
veto with a certain amount of that.
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And look, that's one of the
things that I've been preaching on the campaign
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trail is you know, everybody asked
me, are you gonna stop development?
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Yeah? You know, well,
look, parish president doesn't have that authority.
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Yeah, no, he just does. He cannot stop development, you
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know, Paris president's job is to
make sure that they f all of the
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rules. You know, he does
have a power to veto something, but
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the council can override it. So
ultimately, your power is in your council.
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That's why you have nine people,
you need five votes. It's a
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checks and balance right there. And
he keeps the parish from having a dictator
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that dictates everything that happens in our
parish. That's right, you know.
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I mean, that's that's why a
council system was invented and put into play.
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Well. And one thing I will
say about you that I picked up
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just from you being on the campaign
trail and speaking at various places is you're
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not a dictator. As a matter
of fact, a lot of what you
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say is the total opposite of that. One of the things I know you're
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a big believer in is is finding
the right people and letting them do what
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they do. And you know,
you're coming into an administration should you be
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elected, where some people may stay, some people may go, but and
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then it becomes your job to make
sure that you have good people around you,
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and that's what you have to do. You have to surround yourself with
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good people and then you have to
let them do their job. Yeah.
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If I have to stand over their
shoulders and see what they're doing, then
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I didn't make a good hire.
Yeah, you know, I've got to
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go find them people that we need
in our parish that can help us do
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the right job. Bring the money, Go find us grant money that can
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help our parish, you know,
go go find new technology that can help
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our parish. You know, I
do think we have a great finance lady
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that does our finances for the parish. She does an awesome job. I
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believe me and ear can work together. I think she's done an awesome job
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to Jennifer, Yes, you know, done a good job. I mean,
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I think there's a lot of them
that I hope they stay. But
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I'm the type of guy that I'm
gonna walk in day one and say who's
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leaving? Yeah, And I'm not
going to talk people into staying because if
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you have doubt of working for me, you have doubt, that's right.
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Yeah, that's the last thing you
want, right, I want someone that
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believes in me. So I can
believe in them and we can work in
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a good team environment and work for
this parish. When you go in there,
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let's talk about that for a second. You go in there, it's
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day one and boom you your parish
president. What is what is kind of
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your first goal that you would like
to accomplish? Well, I mean the
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first thing is going to be employees. Yeah, I mean the hands down
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you you you got to make sure
that all the departments have the personnel they
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need to continue providing the services for
the constituents of this parish. Yeah,
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you know, so, I mean, hands down, that's first. Uh.
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And then it's you know, going
and working with each department individual.
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I've had always said that what I
would like to do is spend a week,
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two weeks in each department. Yeah, go work with them, Go
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see what they do on a daily
basis, Understand how each department works,
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what they're having to work with.
What can we come up with to make
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it better too, so they can
provide better services. So it's definitely going
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to be within the administration itself,
working in each of these departments. Sure,
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trying to figure all that out.
I mean, we gotta you know,
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is our equipment outdated, you know
that we need to look into that
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or you know, I mean one
of the things I would love to see
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in DPW is put iPads with our
supervisors. Yeah, so little technology,
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little technology, you know, and
when they go out there and do a
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work order, they can enter it. The moment they're finished, the constituent
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gets an email, the administration gets
an email, the counselman gets an email,
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and everybody that's involved knows, hey, this is completed, thank you
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cam. Yeah. You know,
look my bug guy has an iPad.
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Yeah, so yeah, they definitely
need to get that. And uh and
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I think that's something while you're on
that subject of technology, it's something that
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you really bring to the table.
Is is a new kind of like a
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new vision and a new technology side
to yourself that you can yes, and
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you can go back and look at
the council. We're in the process of
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rolling into that technology. You know, we're using iPads, we're using an
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electronic voting system that we're slowly working
towards. One of the things that I
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love about it is it does kind
of stop most of the councilmen from just
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speaking out when they shouldn't speak out. I can't say that it stops all
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of them, right, but you
know there's a request to speak, but
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you know it will help meetings run
like they're supposed to run. And it
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just shows the power of technology.
I grew and I've always said, you
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know, when I started out in
my business, we were handwriting stuff.
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He was probably doing the same thing. We would go order material, we
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had to handwrite all of it.
We did an estimate, we had to
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handwrite every bit of it. And
we slowly worked into technology, you know,
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from the more. I mean,
it was so new that when they
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set a computer on my desk,
I had to figure out how to turn
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it on. Yes, you know
where now I can't. I can't even
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function when out a computer. Yeah, I know, my computer goes down.
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I'm lost. Yeah, you know, and I'm that bridge. Yeah,
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I understill understand old school, but
I see the vision of new school
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and new technology, and I think
that's perfect. That's a that's a great
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marriage because uh, you know,
I if the new technology were to fail,
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you know what to do. And
but you definitely everything is leaning towards
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that. You really need someone in
that position that can handle that understands that
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grasp the advantages of that, Yeah, because at the end of the day,
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it's gonna save you a lot of
money, a lot of time.
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Yes, there's no doubt you're at
MMR MMR. What do you do for
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them? I'm a site manager farm. I've been at the same chemical plant
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for twenty seven years for most of
classics. Yeah, I run all of
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their major projects of electrical and instrumentation
projects. We have their instrument maintenance.
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We actually have a huge project expansion
going on right now. We have a
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little over two hundred employees in the
plant, so I get phone calls all
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day long. You still can imagine
it, Yes, you know, I
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mean, and you know I've deal
with project management. I deal with planning
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and scheduling, Yeah, estimating material
ordering, writing contracts, negotiating contracts,
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policies and procedures. I mean,
everything you deal with as a parent,
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as a paris president, I do
it on that at that scale. I
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mean, I've run from two thousand
dollar jobs to twenty million dollar jobs.
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Yeah. I sometimes will have twenty
jobs at one time going on. Yeah,
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you know, I have a board
at my office, and I mean
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my supervisors will walk in and when
that board's full, they just dropped their
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head and walk out, you know, because it's like, well we can
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we never can catch up. Well, look, we're in the business of
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making money. So if that board's
full, we're making money. If that
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board's empty, people are going home
right. Well, and look, it's
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a skill that that from a parish
president's standpoint, will do nothing but benefit
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you, especially with the planning and
scheduling aspect of that and the ability to
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multitask, which is extremely important in
a role as a parish president. I
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would imagine you've seen things from a
councilman's side, and I'm sure as in
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councilman you've sat back and sat in
that chair and you've thought, I wish
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ministration would do this, or you
know, they could do this, Betterer,
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or if I were in that role, maybe I could bring this to
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the table. What would you say, is something U that you're going to
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bring to the administrative side that maybe
currently not necessarily missing, but that you
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have some experiencing you would like to
see change. Teamwork. Yeah, teamwork
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with parish president and the council makes
the dream work it, I mean,
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that's how it should work. You
know. As a parish president, I'm
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going I plan on being very very
accessible. Yeah, I will be at
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council meetings. They are the most
important meeting for our parish. I will
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be there. If I cannot attend, it won't be just somebody named to
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be there. It will be someone
with authority. Yeah, that can make
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a decision just like me if it's
asked of them, right, you know,
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and we we're we've just lost that
teamwork environment in our parish from not
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just between the parish president and the
council, the state reps working with each
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other, the state reps working with
the administration, administration working with the council,
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the council working with state reps that's
working with the senator. Like,
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we just don't have that teamwork environment
that we're all working for one goal to
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make live Exton Parish better. You
just nailed it. And and you know,
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uh, your state reps and senators
and all that they all play a
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role in parish and very important that
you have a working relationship. But you
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don't have to play golf with them
on the weekends or whatever, but have
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a working relationship and a dialogue that
that is professional and and uh, you'd
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be amazing once you can accomplish and
they're they're working. It's not like they're
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not doing their job. It's just
what's the old saying, You don't one
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hand doesn't know what the other hand
is doing. And it's kind of that
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field in our government that you know, we could be at the council fighting
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for school impact fees. You know, that's something that's kind of on the
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table right now. And you could
have some state reps that know about two
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million dollars grand out there for schools. Yes, and it's not communicated to
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us, that's right, you know. Are we don't have someone going to
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their office and saying, hey,
right now we're talking about schools, is
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there any money here that we might
be able to get? Yeah, And
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you know that's something that I have
said, you know, I definitely will
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have liaison with state reps to work
with them on a day to day basis
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be able to bring us back any
grant money, any information, anything that
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can help the parish. That's huge
and and something that we've talked about early
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early on in your in your candidacy
was something that I don't know if I
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call it. I saw a hole
in it, but I would have loved
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to have seen more access to grants
because the problem is grants are out there,
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but you got to dig them up. They don't just pop in your
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lap most of the time. And
and you know, there are some some
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ways of paying for things, and
yes, you have to have matches,
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and a twenty million dollar grant is
great, but if you don't have the
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ten million dollars to get the twenty
million dollar grant, it's worthless. But
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there's some out there that you may
get your hands on if you have someone
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like you say, a liaison talking
with these reps and finding these things.
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So shout shout out for a good
job in thinking about that. Now.
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One of the concerns that a lot
of residents have as of late is,
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uh, animal shelters expensive, very
expensive. I mean, look to do
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a true animal shelter right now,
we would need about two million dollars to
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get it rolling in the right direction. Is that money there possible? Yeah?
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Can we get it every year?
I don't know. Yeah, you
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know, I mean sometimes it's easy
to go squeeze and cut this out,
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cut that out, and yeah,
we could come up with it the first
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year, but then the following years
might be hard. I have a couple
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of ideas that I've met with the
Humane Society with. I pitched it to
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them. They liked it. It's
ways to generate money for an animal shelter,
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yeah, without raising taxes. You
know, it's basically like fundraisers,
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you know, to to help our
animal shelter. You know, one of
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my ideas would be to raise money
to just do spade and neutering clinics with
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free spade and neutering. Yeah,
you know, there's another idea that would
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help fun animal control. The money
would go to it. You know,
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we actually have some new money that's
still a little hush hush because we haven't
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gotten kind of our first round that
we possibly could use that money to help
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go into animal shelter. Yeah.
Really, we have two new sources that's
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probably fixing us start hitting the budget
and we'll help us out. And I'm
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sure all that will be released next
year and you know, when we finally
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get that first round of it,
very good. And so it's something that's
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on your radar, and yeah,
definitely something that that you're looking into and
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trying to get a resolution on.
And you know, there's a lot of
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other issues out there. One of
them and I want to kind of get
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into this a little bit. Is
the moratorium that's kind of been to talk
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as of late and initially this there
was a moratorium introduced by several councilmen.
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That was a year long deal.
Yeah, that other councilmen didn't think it
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was necessarily fair. There was some
issues with that. Let's talk about it
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a little bit, all right,
Well, let's let's do a little timeline
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on it. So, uh,
last year we had a moratorium while we
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were rewriting the Section one twenty five
was our building Ordinance. So I think
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we were shut down for about sixty
days for that one yea Ordnance committee was
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working once twice a week. I
mean, we were We're not gonna let
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it drag around. We got after
it, we went to work. We
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changed everything we could. You know, we didn't want to shut our business
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down too long. Right, we
opened it back up. We do have
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a few things that we, like
I said earlier, we have to go
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back and tweak it, you know, necessarily get it right the first time.
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We actually we need a development built
under the new code so we can
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see if it works. Yeah,
you know, but in the meantime of
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that happening, right after we finished
that, we get hit with carbon capture.
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We start dealing with carbon capture the
whole time we're trying to implement zoning.
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Yeah, you know, we're doing
what we can to implement zoning.
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We're trying to hurry up and get
zoning because this will help us with all
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of this stuff. It would have
helped us with carbon capture, it would
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have helped us with development. I
mean, it wouldn't have stopped it.
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It had just been another tool for
us. You know. Well, there
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were four of us. We just
as soon as we got our maps,
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we went through there. We we
did what we thought was the right thing
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to procedure to make it low.
We put it in place, and then
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deer run comes along. Deer Run
gets in right before we kind of enacted
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the moratorium last time, and it
become a legal issue. Yeah, well
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we thought, you know, I
mean, I voted for District fives owning
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maps. I knew that it was
on our one where dear Rum was going,
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which is one acre lots. Yeah. The problem is is when they
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went to federal district judge, they
said Matt wasn't brought in the law properly
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following state statue. So it's unenforceable. Yeah, no and void. Well,
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to me, we can't win a
lawsuit, right, there's no way
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we can win a lawsuit, you
know. So, I mean, you
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got a judge signing us, signing
something telling us that which I haven't sitting
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right here. You know. So
we are offered a settlement. The first
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settlement they give to us, we
denied it. We asked for more time
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so we could study it. Well
I did that. Yeah, you know,
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we're gonna study it. Okay,
Well I'm gonna take it home and
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I'm gonna study it. Yeah,
you're gonna read it. You know.
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So when we were offered the next
settlement, because there was a few more
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it's shoes that happened with judge and
follow another motion, and uh, the
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judge finally just come out and said, uh, we don't have a dog
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in the hunt, and they were
not going to allow their courtroom to be
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used for political grand standing. Yeah, so just finally said we had enough
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of it. Yeah, you know, well, when the settlement comes to
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us, there was a lot of
good things that come out of the settlement.
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Everybody preaches about the fourth entrance.
I mean, look, it's just
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a fourth entrance. To me,
I don't see where that's that big of
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a deal. But you know,
if it was going out on another road,
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you know, and you could make
the traffic go in different directions,
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I would say it being a big
deal. But I mean, fourth Entrance
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is one of them six hundred acres
along the river. I'm sorry, twelve
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hundred acres along the river. Two
six hundred acre tracks cannot be touched.
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Yeah, that's that's gonna be stay
just like it is. They originally had
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a b of apartments in the in
the center of it. They changed that
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to town homes. I think I
don't remember what the number, but it
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was all I know it was less
than half. It dropped from apartments to
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town homes, and the town homes
are going to be sold, not rented.
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They also had to follow our new
ordinances, so they were going to
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do the twenty percent reduction on the
drainage, you know, all of that
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stuff. So I'm so they're not
only not only are they not changing it,
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they're improving, improving it, Yeah, improving it. So and then
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there was the same developer is also
the one doing their subdivision that was down
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in the French selimentary well, part
of the settlement. And I'll give credit
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to mister Gerald mc morris. It
was approved for like six over six hundred
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homes. Yeah, approved, They
were ready to start building. Yeah.
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Mister McMorris went to the table forum
said hey, I want you to cut
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this down one hundred twenty five.
I want two acre lots yea minimum.
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They agreed to it. Wow.
So I feel like he stepped up for
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his people and said, you know, hey, I'm gonna get the best
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deal I can for the people that
I represent. And he and he did
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that, you know, and there's
some people don't agree with it, you
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know, but I'm looking at it
as a whole. Yeah. You know,
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with what all we got from dear
run, you knocked Hilaire down,
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which is gonna that helps the school
system. It's not in many homes,
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you know, that helps everything that
it would have impacted. You know,
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it helps traffic. That's last cars
on the road. So to me,
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that French Settlement area and it we'll
bring some industry out there, just with
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right people that are coming, people
that's coming. So I felt like Council
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McMorris. McMorris made a good deal
for the people down there, you know,
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dear Run seemed to be. It
could have been way worse. I
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mean, there's twelve hundred acres that
could have possibly been developed, right,
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that's not being developed, right.
You know, they didn't have to do
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twenty percent reduction, you know,
so the people below it would have flooded
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worse than what they are. You
know. There there's a lot of things
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that came of it that was good. So we agree. Five of us
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voted on that settlement, right,
we vote on it. The same night
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the moratorium that the that four councilmen
were proposing was on the table. It
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originally started off as a two year
moratorium that got dropped down to a one
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year moratorium. Yeah, and it
was on everything. Fifty lots and above.
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Our hundred acres are bigger. Yeah. The problem is is in the
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settlement there's a clause that reads,
if you vote to accept the settlement,
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you could not vote for a moratorium
that could be imposed on Deer Run,
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or you would personally be a breach
of contract. Well, mister McMorris didn't
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know about it. He voted for
the moratorium, yeah, and it got
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him in some trouble. Yeah,
you know, now he's gotten out of
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it. He's done the right thing. He handled it. That's a discussion
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for him. I don't want to
get in his business, but that's where
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we're at. Yeah, you know, that's what got us kind of back
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and forth on it. I knew
it was there, you know, because
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I had read the original agreement.
So when they brought the new proposal to
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us, I only had to read
like a page right because I already knew
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what the other the rest of it
said. I just wanted to know what
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all the new stuff was, so
I knew that was in there. And
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I went to mister villa Vasso,
which is the professional that we hired.
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Yeah, and I say, hey, we need we need another moratorium.
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We need one that can opt this
development. But it won't. It won't
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it can be imposed on Dear Run
because of this contract. But we can
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still stop all the new stuff.
Let's let's do something to stop that.
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The one year was a problem.
I said, let's go to the second
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meeting of the new council. Let
them get in there and get their feet
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wet, and then at the second
meeting they can then make the decision do
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they want to extend the moratorium o
our zoning implemented. We don't need it
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any longer because it simply says one
hundred and sixty days are until zoning is
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implemented. Right, So if they
get zoning done next month, moratorium is
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over with, right, you know. But that's what we're doing. That's
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how moratorium works. You have to
have a reason. Our reasoning is zoning.
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We need it fixed, we need
it implemented. So they might come
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up the next meeting and say we
need Balabasso might tell me needs sixty more
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days. They extended for sixty days. Yeah, but he has told me
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that he feels like at that meaning
he will be able to give them an
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exact time. Yeah. Yea hey
I need sixty days. I need thirty
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days. Yeah. And and from
my standpoint, and following this closely,
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I think your your your plan was
perfect. The issues I have with the
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original moratorium or the length number one
I didn't look. If you need a
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year to get that stuff straight to
me, that's that that's an issue with
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the council. If it takes you
a year, okay, So I hope
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that didn't insult anybody out there.
But if it takes you a year to
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get that stuff resolve, you probably
don't need to be on the council,
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that's my opinion. One hundred and
sixty days also fit because you have a
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new council coming in and that new
council, for example, your seat will
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be empty. Whoever fills your seat, they may or may not want to
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proceed the same way you did.
Well, you're forcing that on them if
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you if you do it the other
way. So I commend you for coming
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up with that, working with the
planner, which is the person who's the
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professional in that, and making it
happen. You know, it's important.
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That is the hardest thing from a
council standpoint, in my opinion you probably
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agree, is how do you control
growth without overgrowing to the point that uh,
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it's just heywire out there with with
this traffic, you're always probably going
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to be a little behind on infrastructure
versus growth. And we've already been behind
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on infrastructure for thirty years yeah way
before, you know, I mean way
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before. I might have been the
only one that was in politics back now
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as cars on the council right now, Yes, here's the bubble us too,
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Yeah you know, but he's no
longer with us. But I mean,
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look, the subdivisions that we're having
problems with right now. There were
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no rules when they were built.
Yeah, they are the ones that were
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built thirty years ago, twenty five
years ago, twenty years ago. We
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have rules now, they're following rules
now. It's these older subdivisions that are
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the problems. That's right. I
didn't approve one of them. Yeah,
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I wasn't a council I was not
there when I came in. It was
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right away. We need rules,
we need rules, And I'll tell you
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why. I lived on Buddy Ellis
yea, and when I lived there,
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they started building woodland crossing in my
backyard. I have been through it.
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I moved and I ran for a
council seat to try and make a difference.
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I have been where other people are. I know what it's like to
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feel like this is my forever home
and then all of a sudden, you
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have a subdivision built around you.
But if we don't do it legally and
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do it the proper way, we're
gonna get sued all the time and we
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cannot win. Yeah. I'm trying
to make it to where we do have
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something to stand on. Yeah.
Unfortunately, there's a couple of subdivisions that
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got through. Yeah, there's always
gonna be that last one. That's right,
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that last one that got through.
And I you know, and I
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know you don't want it to be
in your backyard. You would rather it
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in someone else's backyard. We don't, we don't control that. It just
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happens to be. That's the ones
that got through. You know. I
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wish we could stop them. I
wish we could do more, but what
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it would cost us in legal fees
and fighting it, and it's we just
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we can't win. Yeah, we
can't win. That's right. And uh,
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you know you've said it many times
and you know throughout your campaign,
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and that is you're going to follow
the rules. And uh and if you
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follow the rules and you're on the
right side of the law, you know,
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you're okay, okay, and you're
a rule follower. And that's it.
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I mean, I've always been like
that, you know. I mean,
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and it's like I said, in
my world, you know, we're
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in the electrical business. There are
rules there to keep people alive so they
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can go home to their families.
That's right. One one mistake by not
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following the rules commnial life, I
mean your life, you know, and
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and that's what's trained me of how
to think. You know, I'm responsible
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for every person that walks through them
gates under my direction. Yeah, and
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if somebody doesn't go home to their
family that night, I'm at fault.
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Yeah. So I preach follow the
rules. Yeah, I don't care whether
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you agree with them or you don't. You follow the rules, and I'm
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the same way. That's lucky,
can't fault. That's exactly what you want
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out of your elected officials. And
I want to ask you. You mentioned
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also in your time here in your
campaign about a super board and and UH
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kind of tell us about that.
Yeah. So once I, like I
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said earlier, I didn't know everything
when I took office. Uh, and
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I started realizing all these different boards
and committees were over and you appoint to
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this board and that board. And
UH realized that at the time we had
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five drainage districts and we have since
combined combined two of them over on the
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east side in southeast southwestern part of
the parish all into one, right you
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know, So that's called US District
eight. And then we have the one
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in Watson one and Walker and one
in Diental right to them three are funded.
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Yeah, they have funds, which
means two thirds of our parish is
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unfunded. Right, let's say that
again, two thirds of our paris is
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unfunded. Uh, And we got
to fix that, you know. We
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to do that, we need to
go talk to the people over there and
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figure out what do they believe is
affordable, what do they believe is the
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right thing to do, And we
do that by showing them a plan.
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Yeah, this is what we're going
to do. This is how we will
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fix it with you helping us,
you know, because I look, I've
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seen where they go out and try
to clean a canal out, and they
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could have fixed it easily by just
talking to the guy that lives there,
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right, you know, And and
we need to have that communication with our
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constituents. Yeah. But what I
noticed is, you know, I have
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somebody on the Walker district, you
know, I point to people on that
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one, and then I have the
District eight, and I'm realizing neither one
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of them knows much at all about
the other one. And I actually have
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one on the Watson board too,
you know, So with me dealing with
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three different districts, there's no communication. Yeah, they don't have a clue
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what each ones are doing right.
So you might have a canal that starts
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in Watson, goes through Walker and
then ends up in the district eight.
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Yeah, well Walker decides to clean
their portion out, which is in the
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center and twenty twenty four and it's
twenty twenty six before Watson decides to clean
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the northern part of it out.
Yeah. Where if we created this super
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board, Well, we have one
guy from each district this on this board,
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they can have a quarterly meeting just
to let each one know what they're
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working on, what they're fixing to
work on. Well, they might realize
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when you know what, since you're
working on Beaver Creek. It starts in
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Watson and comes through Walker, and
then it wounds up into Koyel that goes
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down into eight. How about we
all work on that canal at the same
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time and we clean it from top
to bottom. Sounds like a great unde.
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Yeah, it's just about communication.
Yeah, that's all it is.
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It's communication. I think it's a
I think it's a great idea in communication
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going a long way towards solving problems. Yes, and what would you say,
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Uh, was some of the best
advice you've ever got on leadership.
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I probably would say just being accessible, yeah, you know, being accessible
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to the people that work under your
direction and to the people you're working far
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Yeah. You know, as a
leader, you're you're that bridge. You
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are You're that bridge between the workers
and the people you're doing the work far
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right. And and I've kind of
always I mean, look, you can
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ask the guys that work for me
at the plant. Very seldom do you
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see my door shut? Yeah,
yeah, they come in. I have
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a big open area where they come
in right outside my office and they have
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their lunch breaks, and you know, and my door's always open. I
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can be said then my desk and
talking to them while they're out there.
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If they you know, they could
just walk up there and ask me a
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question, you know, And I'm
I'm like that. I just make sure
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I'm accessible to everybody that that I'm
in that leadership role far yeah, you
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know, so I try to make
sure that you know you and you need
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to see that in me. Yeah, that I am that guy that you
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can just come up and talk to. I would agree with that. And
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and something that you know, you've
made a commitment several times in your campaign
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about you're gonna be at council meetings
and you're gonna be involved. And if
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you can't personally be there, you're
gonna have someone who can make a decision
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be there. And that is also
a form of leadership. It's you know,
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and it's also you need to be
informed of what those guys are doing
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at all times. And yeah,
and I even say, you know,
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being you The last podcast talked about
this that you know, Look, I'm
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the type of guy I want to
be the best whatever I do. My
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goal is be better than whoever was
there before me. Yep, you know,
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So whatever the standards are, the
people think is was the best parish
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president we had, I'm going to
leave office being better. You go,
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you know, they set the bar. I know where I need to go,
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and I'm gonna make sure i'm better, you know. And I've always
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been like that in life, you
know, from sports and high school to
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wanting to be the best athlete on
the field, you know, to when
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I started coaching, you know,
I got into baseball. I wasn't a
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big baseball player as a kid,
but my son liked baseball, and I
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went and learned everything I could about
baseball so I could coach him. Yeah,
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you know, we did tournament ball, we won state titles, we
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won a world series. I mean, anything that somebody told me I could
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not do because I was from Livingston
Parish, I proved them wrong. Yeah,
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so oh yes I can, and
I'm gonna do it with Livingston Parish
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kids love that. And that's what
I did. Yeah, it's huge.
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And and uh, you know,
let's let's talk for a second about because
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you didn't always We said this a
little bit in the last podcast, but
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you didn't always want to be in
politics, Like that's something that you kind
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of morphed into. And and and
here you said, who would have thought?
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And uh, you know, your
opponent, just to bring your opponent
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up for a second, is has
been in politics a long time, and
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you represent a change. You're you're
a change from from that. And I
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think that's it's important to mention that
you are not in this just for four
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years. You're in this for the
long haul. A matter of fact,
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when you and I talked last time, you said, I fully intend to
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serve as long as people will let
me. I mean, you know we
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have term limits the learners. I
could go as three terms, twelve years.
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Uh you know, I mean and
if I was here for twelve years,
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i'd only be sixty five years old. Yeah still, you know,
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I mean, I'm I'm kind of
what I consider the prime of my career,
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which kind of is the backside.
But that's when you really get the
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most out of people because they have
the knowledge at that point to really give
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you what you're paying for. Yeah, you know, and that's where I'm
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at. With what I've learned in
my industry and my years of just going
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out there and hustling, I can
bring that to the parish. Well,
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it's and it's hard, Jeff,
to implement a vision in four years,
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very hard. I don't even know
if it's as possible. I've even told
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people this, you know. I
feel like getting reelected the first time should
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be easy for anyone. Yeah,
because you've had four years to start making
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changes, showing people that you're trying, You're trying to make the difference and
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they see it. It's that third
term that's the hard one, because that
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third term you better have proven that
the changes you made are working. Yes,
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you know, That's That's how I've
looked at term limits. You know,
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you know, your first term you
show the changes, the second term
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you make them work. Yeah,
if you're gonna get that third one,
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it better be working, that's right. If you get that third one,
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that means the people are happy and
they approve of the job you've done because
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they know that you know that third
term is is it for you? So
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the gloves are kind of off,
and you know, you the last thing
548
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you wanted someone in the office that
can just go haywire and do whatever they
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want because they have no they have
no plans to run again, right,
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So what does it matter if you
don't like what I'm doing? Uh?
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You know, short of impeaching me, there's not a whole lot you can
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do about it. No, you
can't know what I mean. Look,
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and that was kind of one of
the things that I kind of didn't like
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about term limits because you run into
that, you get to where a guy
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gets elected for his last term,
he can't run anymore. Yeah he's done.
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You can't get rid of him.
Yeah, I'm gonna ride out these
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last four years and I'm gone,
Yeah I'm done. Where if we didn't
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have term limits, they would still
have to work for you because they want
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it again. Yeah, you know, but we have term limits. You
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know, I voted to put it
on the ballot because I think the people
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had the right to decide that well. And and and I will say that
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you know, by the time you
get around of that third term, in
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my opinion, if you're someone that
for eight years have been doing the right
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thing and pushing yourself, you're probably
gonna push through that last term regardless.
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And uh, you know, there's
the sad thing for me about term limits
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is sometimes you lose people you don't
want to lose, Yeah, and you
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can't do anything about it. And
I hate that. We're fortunate here in
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Livingston Parish, right, so we
have a lot of people here. We
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have a lot of knowledge in our
parish. Yeah, you know, we
570
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have a lot of businessmen in our
parish. There's a lot of people that
571
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stand up. The issue is there's
a lot of them that don't want to
572
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deal with it. Yes, you
know, a lot of it has to
573
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do with social media. Yes,
you know, they don't want to put
574
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their family through that. They just
don't want to have to. You know,
575
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they're worried about it hurting their business
and it's causing good people to not
576
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stand up and run. It can
help our parish. That's right, and
577
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:16.159
then you get these smaller parishes,
which I look back to when I was
578
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a kid, how Livingston Parish was
and you didn't have many people to choose
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from. Yeah, you know,
and it's been said, you know,
580
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we've kind of had the same people
running our parish for the past thirty forty
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years. You know, this,
this transition that is going on now to
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the next generation, should have happened
fifteen years ago, but we just we
583
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got so used to the same names, the same people. Oh well they
584
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got it, well, they got
it, and our generation didn't step up
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fast enough. And now we are
and we're getting there and we're trying to
586
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take over. And really I think
my raceist probably the only one that the
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old generation could still hold on.
Yeah, you know, other than that
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all, you know, I mean, look, I love mister Rogers Pope
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to death. He has done unbelievable
work for our parish, you know,
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00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.559
but you know, he's he's gone, he's he's retiring, he's out,
591
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you know. So that's one of
the older guys that's been doing it forever
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that you know, we just we
trust him. He's been here forever,
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He's always done what the people wanted. A great guy, mister Bubba Harris.
594
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You know, I mean he's out, he's done, he's been doing
595
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it forever. Yeah, you know, just these last few older guys are
596
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still they're just now kind of giving
it up, right, and it's it's
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time for us to take over.
I agree, I agree, and and
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uh and you're doing it and out
there working every day, working hard.
599
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.199
And that's why we like to put
these podcasts out is because we want people
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to be able to see who who
these guys are. Outside of ten minutes
601
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they get to speak somewhere uh that
you know, that's great for the fast
602
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:06.519
you know, answers to questions,
but it's hard to learn who they are.
603
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.360
And speaking of that, you know, you don't have a lot of
604
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.320
spare time, but you have some
Uh what do you like to do outside
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of you know, mmr and and
uh sitting on the council and doing all
606
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.960
this work for the parish. Well, I love the hunting fish. Yeah,
607
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:27.760
you know, when I can find
the time, I love the hunting
608
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:31.480
fish. I have a granddaughter that
you know, sometimes I'm in a swimming
609
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:35.880
pool with her. You know,
I'm fortunate that my son has the house
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next to me. Yeah, and
you know, I get to see my
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00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.599
granddaughter a lot, so I do
that a lot. I mean, look,
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00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.400
when you see jeff Ard, if
he's got a drink in his hand,
613
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.960
it's gonna be a water or a
diet coat. It's not gonna be
614
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.079
a beer or whiskey. Yeah.
You know, Uh, you're not gonna
615
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.119
see him in a ballroom on Saturday
night because he gets something, goes to
616
00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:00.280
church on Sunday mornings at Revival Temple. Yeah. You know. I've tell
617
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.039
this to people all the time.
I'm gonna work for the people, but
618
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.159
I serve my Lord and Savior.
Love it, love it. And uh
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and say what do you like to
hunt? What's your favorite? There's my
620
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:16.599
favorite. And it's mainly because it's
an opportunity to me for sit in peace
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and quiet. As my wife says, I love to find the hunting camp.
622
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:25.239
Water sales service doesn't work. Yeah, you know, and just just
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be with nature and just sit there
and have my time to really just reflect.
624
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:36.400
I'm good at fishing, yeah,
but I get too competitive fishing.
625
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.639
You know. When I start fishing, next thing, you know, I'm
626
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.400
looking for a tournament to get in. Uh, you know, I want
627
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.599
people on the boat with me and
start talking smack back and forth to each
628
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:51.960
other. You know, but hunting
is definitely my peaceful time. I love
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it, man, I love it. And look appreciate you coming on and
630
00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.119
and uh, you know, get
in office and win this race, and
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00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:04.960
you'd come back anytime, and just
give the people an update on what's going
632
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:08.519
on and in Livingston Parish from your
office. Yeah, and just make sure
633
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:14.480
everybody knows. September thirtieth, Yes, early voting starts. It runs for
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00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:17.239
a week. You can go to
the down Springs Walker branch right there at
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Eden Church and vote, or you
can go to the tax accessor building by
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the courthouse and vote yea. And
then elections October fourteenth. And look October
637
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.519
fourteenth, it's a busy day for
our parish. We have an election.
638
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.280
It's gonna be the Saturday of the
Fair. Yes, I think there's a
639
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.519
trade show going on at v Watts
that day. Oh, so there's a
640
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:43.159
lot of stuff gonna be happening in
our parish on October fourteenth. So if
641
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.880
you can early vote, early vote, I agree, I agree, And
642
00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:50.519
I know some people out there they
have that tradition. May you know,
643
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.920
we vote on election day and that
and that's fine because those people typically going
644
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.960
to vote no matter what. But
if you have any any sort of hesitation,
645
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:00.239
just just vote early. Look,
there's no pressure. You get a
646
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.639
library whenever you want during opening hours
and they'll let you vote. And uh,
647
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.880
and there's rarely any line because it's
gonna be a big election, big
648
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.639
leagon this year and winding down,
we wish you all the luck. Uh,
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00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.760
please comment if if you got any
questions, and I'll make sure I
650
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get him to Jeff, so just
comment on the podcast and and uh maybe
651
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we'll get him to answer some of
those questions. And I appreciate you coming
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on as always, Thank you for
having Until next time, I'm Jim Chapman
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reminding you love your community, support
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