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Hy everyone, and welcome back to Local Leaders the podcast
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and today we have several gentlemen that we're gonna be
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talking to from cool Kings Heating and Air. I'm gonna
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let them introduce themselves before we get into what we're
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going to talk about today, So we'll start over here.
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What's going on. My name is Ryan Swilley, and I'm
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with cool Kings Heating and Air.
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I'm Ethan Swilling. I'm the lead technician at cool King's
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Heating and Air.
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And I am Jim Chapman with Local Leaders of Podcasts.
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Glad to have the these guys on. And you may
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be thinking, wait a minute, it's fall. What are we
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talking about air conditioners for. Well, if you live in
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South Louisiana like we do, you always need air conditioner,
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it doesn't matter what month it is. And so today
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we're going to cover several topics. We're going to talk
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about refrigerant efficiency changes that have come out that may
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or may not affect you, the type of AC systems
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that are recommended to use for homes. I would like
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to get a little bit into you know, how square
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footage plays a part in that. We're also going to
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talk about the most common AC repairs that are out
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there that you guys see. I think that would be
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interesting because obviously those are things that people would want
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to avoid. We're going to talk about basic thermostats versus
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smart thermostats. Something that's really come and hit the mainstream,
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if you will, lately, is the smart thermostats you can
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control from your cell phone. We're going to talk about
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that a little bit. When to clean your AC something
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that a lot of people don't realize the importance of
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doing I would imagine semi frequently, but we're going to
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get into that with the experts. Regular filters versus preferated filters,
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if you will, That's what I call them. There's probably
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a better word for that, but we're going to talk
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about those. The importance of a professional AC person versus
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a chuck in the truck, for example. How important is
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it to have someone that really knows acs like the
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back of their hands. So we're going to talk about
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that a little bit. We're going to give you some
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things that you can do that will help you to
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not have to have such frequent service calls maybe in
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the air conditioner world, and we're going to give you
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some other information as well, but first we're going to
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talk to the owner of this company.
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Ryan.
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I just want to give the listeners a little grasp
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of what got you in to owning cool Kings.
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Yeah, So I mean kind of a brief explanation of
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how I got into it. In high school is when
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my wife, my now wife, got pregnant, right, So I
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was doing paint and sheet rock at the time, and
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my dad always told me, it's like, son, you don't
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want to put paint on walls for the rest of
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your life. You know, it's hard to hard to raise
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a family, you know, doing that. So I was laying
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in bed and I, you know, saw a commercial come
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up to go to school for air conditioning. So that's
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what I decided to do. So went to school for
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air conditioning, got out, worked for a company for probably
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about five or six years. It was two different companies,
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and then after that I decided to get out right
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at the beginning of COVID, yeah, and started my company. Now,
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for some people that was great, and then for for
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for some other businesses it wasn't. It was difficult obviously
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being in the home industry, the service industry, going into
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people's houses, having to be face to face with them,
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but you don't have a choice. I mean, you got
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to have your air conditioning fixed. So you know, that's
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that's really why I got into it. Is for the family.
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And then shortly after getting into it is really when
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I fell in love with it.
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Yeah, and I noticed y'all have the same last name, Yes, sir,
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So what is your relationship here?
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We're brothers?
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Brothers? Okay, okay, very good? And what do you do
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for cool Kings?
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So I'm the lead technician, so usually it's me and
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Ryan running calls. We have another technician, but Ryan is
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more business oriented nowadays. So if there's a very large
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job that needs to be taken care of, I'm usually
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number one on the roster to go ahead and get
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out there and make sure that everything's going to be
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taken care of properly. So just making sure that the
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ins and outs of the workday are going to be
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taken care of well.
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Very good. And you seem very analytical. So you seem
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like someone that really likes to get down in the
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in the weeds, if you will, and really dive into
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problem solving things of that nature. And a lot of times, look,
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the AC business is not different than a lot of
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other trades in that usually when someone's calling you, it's
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a problem.
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It's they're not calling you to say hello.
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They're usually mad because their air conditioner is not working,
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and you may have had nothing to do with that.
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This may be a completely different company that put an
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ACN and but they break, you know, their machines, they
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break over time, and so when they call you guys,
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it's usually you know, my wife is about to hit
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me with a frying pan because it's ninety degrees in
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this house, and can you come help me?
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And I need you now, and all of these they're
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already mad. Yeah, they're already mad before.
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So it really takes, in my opinion, a special person
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to be able to put someone at ease and say, hey,
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we're here for you.
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Yeah, I mean communications, it was definitely definitely play a
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large factor in what we do. It's not just fixing
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air conditioning systems.
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So yeah, and I know people in the Livingston Parish
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area and the Baton Rouge area, which are the primary
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listeners of my audience, I know they've seen your trucks
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out there, and you have some of the best branding
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really sticks out, even though it's Florida gated Carlos and.
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In some ways that kind of stands out.
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People notice that, you know, you see a lot of
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purple and gold out there, and it's like it blends
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in now because a.
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Little background on the colors. The first the first air
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conditioning company I worked for was out in Walker and
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their colors are orange, okay. And the second air conditioning
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company I worked for was out in Central their colors
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were blue. So they really instilled in me you know
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what business and air conditioning was. So I just told
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both their colors and that's the way to do it.
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Now. Obviously, you've been in the business since twenty twenty
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as far as owning your own company in the business
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prior to that, of course working for others. But even
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in that amount of time, you've probably seen a lot
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of changes in the air conditioning world.
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Absolutely. I mean it doesn't take but three to six
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months to see a change in the air conditioning industry.
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Everybody's got their hands in it. It's very lucrative, you know,
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when it comes to the government, the supply houses. I mean,
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there's just always changes happening. Efficiencies refrigerants, different codes that
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we have to use, sensors. I mean, these air conditioning
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systems are getting so smart, you know, it's making it
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real difficult to just change the capacity or wash a
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unit and till the customer could buy.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like vehicles. You know, twenty
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years ago you could actually change the oil in a vehicle. Now, man,
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you're taking a chance doing that. You got to tear
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report the home motor. So same thing in your world.
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Let's talk about refrigerant efficiency change just first. So this
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is something that I can remember changing over time from
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like twenty five years ago to you know, fifteen years ago.
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Where are we at now?
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What is the deal with? So right now we are
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in what they call a two L refrigerants. Okay, Well
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let me back it up because again you said that
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the refrigerants change, okay, and there's all different theories whether
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it's actual global warming or if it's a money grab. Okay,
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But every refrigerant has a GWP, which is a global
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warming potential number. Okay. So back in the day, it
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was R twelve, and it went to R twenty two
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probably in like the nineties early nineties ish if I'm correct,
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And then the early two thousands we went to R
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four ten A which had a lower GWP number. And
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now in twenty twenty four, transitioning into twenty twenty five,
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we went to A two L refrigerants. No, well, basically
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just moves it up the scale of flammability as well.
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So this new refrigerant is flammable, but it has a
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lower GWP now and the two refrigerants are R thirty
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two and R four fifty four B. So again with
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this flammable refrigerant, that's going back to the technology. Now
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all these air conditioning systems have to have leak sensors
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on the inside of the air conditioning systems to prevent
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a large amount of this refrigerant getting into people's houses.
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Wow. Yeah, interesting And when did that occur? Was it
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in the last year so it.
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Was the first of this year.
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Yeah, oh wow.
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When the EPA makes mandates usually it's over a term
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of a couple of years. But the thing that's kind
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of shook the HVAC industry is that the change to
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the A two L refrigerants was very sudden based on
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the the last minute focus on global warming and more
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you know, concern for the earth, which is great, but
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they kind of pushed the switch to A two L
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refrigerants a bit too quickly, and that put not only
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HVAC companies in a bad position, but manufacturers. I mean,
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we still have trouble getting some of the new refrigerants
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because they pushed it a little bit too fast. They
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pushed a three to four year you know process into
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about six months. So we have manufacturers backed up, not
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being able to produce the refrigerant, the containers, parts are
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on back order, and you know, it's it's it's real
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hard to explain to a customer that it's not it's
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not the ac company's choice to only choose these A
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two l's.
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Sure, it's hands are todd Yeah, it's EPA mandates.
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There's nothing we could do about it.
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Wow. Well, uh, but that the good thing is that's
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where you come in, and that's where you don't want
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to chuck in the truck going in your house doing that.
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You want someone that knows, uh, the regulations all the
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way around.
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And let me clarify while we're on the topic, because
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I don't want to freak anybody out. The refrigerant is flammable,
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but it's not like propane or buttane. Your house ain't
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gonna explode. Right, So basically, if you put a if
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you put a flame to it, it will ignite and
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catch fire, but as soon as you move the flame
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away from it, it will not continue burning.
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But that's where the ATOL classification comes in. The other
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classification that the above ato L would be like propane, gasoline, buttane,
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stuff like that. So it's not anything like if it
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leaks into your house and you turn on the stove,
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that your whole house isn't going to explode. Stuffing like that.
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But they do have to take those precautions due to
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the fact that it is semi flame.
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And it does have to be to a It has
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to be compacted quite a bit. It has to be
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a high pressure of the refrigerant, so it would have
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to be ten to twenty pounds of refrigerant in one
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room in order for it to even ignite, and it
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has to be with an open flame and dispersement rate
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of it is almost immediate. It doesn't flame or earn
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like something like gasoline. It's not going to have the
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ability to spread. As soon as it hits it's pretty
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much gone.
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Gotcha, gotcha, that makes sense. Let's move on to types
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of AC systems. So I am obviously the layman here
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on things AC. I know about high efficiency AC systems.
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Or something big.
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As a matter of fact, when I bought my house,
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that was that was something I wanted to replace air
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conditioners years ago, and the high efficiency was the way
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to go back in those days. But tell, let's discuss
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that real quick.
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So I'll kind of touch based on it briefly about
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the different types of air conditioning systems, because I mean
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we could drag that out for sure for like an hour. Yeah,
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that'd be a five parter, right, So I mean your
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basic nutshell, you know, you have electric air conditioning systems,
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which just have electric heat. You have gas air conditioning
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systems which have gas heat. You have a heat pump
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air conditioning system which utilizes a reversing valve to reverse
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the flow of refrigerant to the house. And then you
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have geothermal air conditioning systems, which uses water to cool
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the air conditioning. Wow, your most common are going to
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be electric and gas air conditioning system So that that's