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Local Leaders: The Candidates #3 | Lindon Bennett Magee - 21st JDC Judge Division E

Local Leaders: The Candidates #3 | Lindon Bennett Magee - 21st JDC Judge Division E

In this episode Jim Chapman sits down with Lindon “Lindy” Bennett McGee, candidate for district court judge in Division E of the 21st Judicial District. Lindon discusses her education and legal career, including clerkships, private practice, work in the public defender’s office, and service as a staff attorney for judges. She discusses why she is running for judge, and gives her insight on backlogs in the court system, as well as what she would change in division E and other topics.

You can learn more about Lindon Bennett Magee by visiting:
https://www.lindy4judge.com

Timestamps:
03:31 Law School and Clerking
04:29 Private Practice and Public Defense
09:45 Judges Chamber Work
12:45 Division E Explained
20:02 Experience Matters
20:31 Victims and Sentencing
23:12 Improving the Court
26:37 Final Appeal to Voters

Tags: Lyndon Bennett McGee, district court judge, 21st Judicial District, Division E, Tangipahoa Parish, Livingston Parish, St. Helena Parish, juvenile cases, misdemeanor cases, traffic cases, public defender, courtroom temperament, case management

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Local Leaders, the podcast. And

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today we have a guest on the show that she's

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actually been on some prior episodes. It's been a little while, Ms.

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Lyndon Bennett McGee. Everybody calls her Lindy if you know her.

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And she's a candidate for district court judge in Division E.

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That's in the 21st Judicial. So first of all, I

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want to welcome you to the show.

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Thank you, Jim. And thanks so much for having me again.

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I always love it.

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Yeah. Always enjoy having you on. And so today we're

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going to pretend like someone's meeting you for the first

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time and they did. They're totally unfamiliar with you and

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they're wanting to learn more about you. So tell, tell

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me a little bit about you, where you were born

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and raised, all that.

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And so I was born and raised in Punta Tula.

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I'm a lifelong resident of our district. Um, I met

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my husband right out of high school. Um, Once we

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got married, we moved to Laranger, and now we live

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outside of Laranger with our two little boys.

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They are six and eight now.

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Wow. Six and eight.

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Oh, yes.

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Great age.

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Yes. Never a dull moment.

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Yeah. And I remember those days. Between the ages of

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six and eight are just phenomenal ages. Yeah. Yeah. So, obviously,

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you're running for judge, which means you're likely a lawyer, right?

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And I'll tell you what, we're going to get into

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your background a little bit as a lawyer because your

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experience is just unbelievable. You've got to be one of

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the most experienced lawyers on all sides of the courtroom

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that I've ever researched. I mean, you've done it all.

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But it had to start somewhere. And for you, it

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started in law school. But even before that, you attended college.

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Where'd you go to college?

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Southeastern. Okay.

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Southeastern lines. Yeah. Very good. And what did you major

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in there? What was your deal?

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History and political science.

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Okay. History. You like history.

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I do, yes.

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Very good. Graduate, and you decide you want to go

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to law school? Right.

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Well, I knew before then.

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Tell me about that. How did you know?

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It's just always really interested me, and I always looked

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at that as a way that you could help someone.

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My mom... I was.

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Listening to a song today, and I don't know if

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you're familiar with it. Alan Jackson, Chasing That Neon Rainbow.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. Classic.

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I was cracking up because I heard, like, my mama

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never thought I'd take it this far. So she always

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told me I could do anything that I wanted. So

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I took that advice, and here I am. But I know,

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you know, I think I was probably one of the

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first in my family to graduate college, certainly the first

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to go into grad school and everything, my sister and

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I both. And I knew, though, that I wanted to help,

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and I loved the idea of an attorney. I think

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we've talked before. My mom, one of her favorite movies

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when I was little was To Kill a Mockingbird.

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Yes, I remember that.

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I think Atticus Finch is everything that a man should be.

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So seeing him, and I loved how he would work

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with people and just really talk with his clients and

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just his character as a person in the courtroom, everything,

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even as a little girl.

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It was something that I aspired to be.

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Wow. Very good. So you do. You get a law school.

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And where did you attend?

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LSU.

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Yeah. Go Tigers.

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Very good. And a great law school there at LSU.

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And eventually you graduate and it's kind of off into

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the world. But even before you graduated, weren't you clerking

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for some people?

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Tell me about that.

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So throughout law school, I clerked primarily with Judge Morrison

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Very good judge. Oh, yes.

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I love him to death. And he's got such a

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sense of humor.

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Oh, my goodness. Now, Doug Hughes.

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And I can remember, you know, he being there rocking

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and rolling in Division D. Brevity is the spice of life.

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He had all of his catchphrases ready.

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You just don't think of judges having a personality. You

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know what I mean? Because they're so serious in a

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courtroom and you just, but they're people. I mean, just

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like everybody else. And so you did that and then

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you graduate from law school. And where did you go

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Well, after that, I quirked for a few months, and

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then I got a job at Cash Kudrain and Bass

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in Hammond.

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Okay. Okay. And what did you do for them?

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I would assist with a little of everything that they did,

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and also I handled all of their family law cases.

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So I would do things.

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They did a lot of work for different banks and

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then also for the city of Hammond.

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So working that. What was really interesting is they were

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also counsel for the Tangipo Parish desake case.

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So a lot of information there.

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And just a very interesting case that, you know, I

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had grown up always hearing about. I believe it started

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in the 60s, and I believe it wrapped up this

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month finally.

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Yes. It's been forever.

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And one thing I can tell already from from your

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kind of your journey here is that you're you're learning,

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you're putting in your days, so to speak, and doing

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a lot of different jobs within the legal system. And

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it stands out on your on your resume, if you will,

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all the things that you've done, which is so important,

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in my opinion, for a judge. So from there, where

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did you go?

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Um, after a few years there, I opened up my

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own law firm and it was in downtown the Roger,

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which is, um, a very small area. But, um, I

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opened that up and at about that time I started

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working at the public defender's office as well.

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Yeah. I'm wearing two hats. You got a business owner

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and a, and a public defender working for the, the, uh,

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the state. Right. Wonderful. Um, So how long did you

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Yeah. What did you think about that experience?

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Well, it taught me so much, like you said, just

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about the business owner side. During that time, I went

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through COVID.

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Oh, that's true. That was all around that time, too.

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Right. Think about that. Oh, yeah.

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So my practice, it was doing very well. but we

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started doing a lot of things remotely. So then at

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some point, I think I had been leasing my office

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for about probably eight months into the shutdown and realized, okay,

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let's just start meeting at home and, you know, having

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to make those.

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And restructure, learn different ways to reach your clients.

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Yeah. Zoom back then became a thing for everybody. And,

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you know, I hadn't really thought about that with attorneys

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in particular, you know, you already were being affected in

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the court itself because there was a while there wasn't

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even court, right?

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Nobody knew what COVID was, what it could do, what

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it couldn't do. So everybody was erring on the side

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of caution and just don't go around anybody. You remember

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those days? Yes.

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And as many challenges that come with having Zoom court,

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we were just so happy to finally have a way,

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you know, To be able to get to court, in

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a sense, with your clients and get their cases before

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a judge.

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this because at that time in my life, I was

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doing this and I was also in the sales world.

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I relied so much on face-to-face. It's different when you're

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over a camera. You can't form a connection that you

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can in person. There's nothing like being in person.

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And so that was a struggle. And I never really

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thought about from a court perspective. And you're talking to

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a judge and you're conveying a client's concerns and you're

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having to do it over a camera. It's hard.

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so much, not even just from what's said, but watching

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your client's demeanor. There's just, like you said, that in-person

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aspect when it's missing.

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trying to make sure, you know, you're trying to figure

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out how to convey that to the judge as you're

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your client as they're in another room on zoom, not

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Right. That's true. And, and it's, it's just so impersonal

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in that it really taught me just as an individual,

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the importance of connection and face-to-face connection is totally different.

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Especially in my world where I was selling things, it

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was impossible to people for people to learn who I

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was from a camera. So, I hadn't thought about that

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with courts, though, and how much of a struggle that

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must have been. So you're a public defender, and you

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do that, and you're also trying to navigate this business

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that the whole world has changed by this point and

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all of those things. And at some point, you move

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on from that, and where do you go?

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I became a staff attorney for our judges, Chambers.

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Okay. What do staff attorneys do?

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Everything?

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Everything. Yes. You can say it. They do everything. You

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write everything. Don't y'all do like when the... you know

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you help to write the opinions and and all of

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those sorts of.

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Things right right so one of the main things I

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do say for a civil we got several days you

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go through you read all the pleadings the cited law

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the law that's not cited, just trying to get a

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handle on everything going on with the case and kind

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of more or less give your judge a good recommendation

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on how to proceed.

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Yeah, it's a ton of research too, I can imagine.

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Time consuming. And especially in your case, when you're dealing

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with legal issues and a defense attorney cites Morris versus Smith,

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way that this judge can understand it and make a

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ruling on it. That's a lot of work.

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But it's a lot of experience, too. Yes. You do that,

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and at some point you decide to run for office?

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Okay, tell me about that.

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My time in the courtroom, I've always, I love practicing.

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I love being a lawyer, advocating. Yep.

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Those days whenever you have a good trial and you win,

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there's nothing else like it. You come out of that

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courtroom on cloud.

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Nine going, what?

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That all worked out exactly how I wanted it to.

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What I learned, though, the more and more that I

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had those experiences, you don't really feel like you're helping someone.

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Yeah.

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You're looking, your clients, they're still... When someone's in a courtroom,

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it's hard to make them whole in the way that

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they think they may be made whole from a proceeding.

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And I feel like a judge, that role is much

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more suited for that.

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I believe if you maintain the right temperament in your courtroom,

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if you make sure the people in there understand what's happening,

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that that is really so much more integral to helping

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that person walk out in a better way frame of mind,

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and with a better understanding.

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That's a great way to put it. And, you know,

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communication is underrated. Absolutely. I tell people that all the time.

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It's amazing the issues that can be solved just by communicating.

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People don't, well, I'm generalizing here, but communication is one

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of the fallouts that we've seen kind of in society.

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People just don't communicate like they used to. And I

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think a judge communicating the entire reason for whatever it

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is that's going on will go a long way. And

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it sounds like that's something that, you know, you consider

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very important as well.

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Yes.

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Yeah. So we want to talk a little bit about

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the actual seat that you're running for here. And this

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is Division E. It's in the 21st Judicial District. And

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I want to talk specifically about the 21st Judicial because

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it's a large district. I mean, it encompasses three parishes, right?

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Right.

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Let's talk about that a little bit. What parishes and

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what specifically is Division E going to handle?

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So it covers Tanshpaho, Livingston, and St. Helena parishes.

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And it will be handling about 20% of our district's

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juvenile cases.

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Wow.

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And that covers your juvenile delinquency matters, which I think

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is what generally comes to.

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Mind when you say juvenile to people.

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Sure.

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Then it also handles your children and families in need

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of care cases.

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Okay.

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And that's more so whenever you see the situations where DCFS,

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for whatever reason, may come into a home, a child

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may be removed, or a family may need some support

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or guidance, and they come into the court system that way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Very good. So it's going to handle a wide array

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of things from juvenile to misdemeanors to even traffic, right,

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in some cases? Yes. Now, are you going to be,

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I know with the 21st Judicial, you travel to different,

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you're not always in Livingston or you're not always in Tangy.

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How is that going to work for you as a judge?

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In this seat, it is even more interesting. Then in

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these other, like in your other general jurisdiction seats.

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Right.

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So for your juvenile cases, you will be going to

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the juvenile court. Um, we have a separate courthouse in

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a meet and a separate courthouse in Livingston for our

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juvenile cases.

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Okay.

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So those would be handled there.

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Wow.

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And then your misdemeanor and your traffic cases will be

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handled in the regular courthouse in each of those towns.

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Okay. Very interesting. Um, I want to ask you a

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few questions as it relates to the 21st Judicial and

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what you'll be dealing with in that division. And one

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of those is backlog. This is not limited, by the way, y'all,

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to the 21st Judicial. This is probably countrywide. There's a

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big backlog of cases. And so when I talk to

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people that aren't necessarily, they're not a judge or they're

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not an attorney, one of the things that they always

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ask is, why does it take so long for a

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case to go from start to finish? And a lot

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of that, look, you're dealing with the law and you

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don't want to miss steps. And it's very important that

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when you're trying a case or when you're overseeing a case,

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like what a judge does, that you don't rush a case.

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But a lot of the the backlog and just the

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time from start to finish in these cases are continuances.

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Some of those are necessary. Sometimes a defense is going

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to need more time to prepare a case. What do

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you feel about that?

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I agree with what you said. You know, some of

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those continuances are necessary. Some matters are outside of the

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attorney's control whenever they ask for those continuances. We have

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a huge backlog at our state crime lab. So it

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may be we're waiting on DNA evidence and can't get

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it back from the crime lab. And those are the

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sorts of situations that are really difficult. But I feel like, again,

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that's where a judge has an opportunity to make sure

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that everyone in the court understands why it's happening and

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understand what sort of delay is reasonable in that situation

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and when we'll just have to move forward and really

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press the crime lab or something. Also, I feel like

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some of those come in and it's really how you

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structure your courtroom. If the attorneys before you know, hey,

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these sorts of continuances won't be allowed.

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We're getting this done. We're moving this off the docket.

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We're continuing on. They come in prepared.

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They know, hey, you know, I can't kick this case

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down the road and proceed with my other case in

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the next courtroom instead. And it kind of sets a

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good pace, I believe, so that people know not to

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expect to be able to just Again, continue those cases.

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Yeah. And I've actually sat in a courtroom during a

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trial as a spectator and watched a case. And the judge,

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there was a question. And so they were moving that

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to the Supreme Court level to get this question answered.

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And the judge said, that's fine. You can do that.

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But we're going to continue with this case. We're not

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going to stop the case until the Supreme Court answers.

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And then when the Supreme Court comes back, whatever that

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ruling is, we'll acknowledge it. And I thought that was

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important because this particular case had drug on for like

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five years. And the judge was just over it. He's like,

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we're not going to stop this. This is something that

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can be addressed later. And we're going to continue and

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just put that on the back burner until we get

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an answer. And they eventually did. And it turned out fine.

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So I'm glad that you said that, that you're going

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to recognize, you know, what is What is important in

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these continuances and what is delay?

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And it's funny that you brought that up. I often

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get asked, you know, what do you do as a

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staff attorney? That's a very good example. Say if there

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is an issue and someone's taking a writ and you're

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trying to figure out, can we.

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Proceed with the case right now?

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How much can we, you know, what all can we

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get into while we're waiting to hear back from the

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Supreme Court? What would the impact be? depending on their

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particular ruling, all of that. So those are things that

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in real time, as the trial is moving along, the

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judge may not have the opportunity to look into that himself.

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And that's where I come in. And you're looking through

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those issues and giving them kind of a quick synopsis

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and letting them know, hey, option.

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A, option B.

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Yeah. An executive summary, if you will. I think that's

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so important. And You know, in your case, I mentioned

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this earlier, but your experience is just so vast. You

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rarely see someone who has been on so many sides

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of a courtroom. I mean, you've been a public defender,

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a private lawyer. You've been a law clerk. You've been

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a staff attorney. You've been a victim's advocate. And that's

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a lot of experience. And I think that's what you

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want in a judge. I got nothing against a judge

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that was a defense lawyer at one time or a

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judge that was a prosecutor at one time. But the

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more roles, the better, because you're seeing everybody's side. You

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kind of know what everybody's side is and what they

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have to deal with as far as making your decision,

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making the best decision you can. So I think that's

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something that really stands out about you. I know you

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don't want people to lose sight of that and the

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importance of that. You agree with that? You agree with

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the importance of all of that experience?

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Absolutely.

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And that was something I knew early on that I

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wanted to be a judge. So I really tried to

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figure out what I felt like would be good steps

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to take to make sure I was best prepared to

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take the bench.

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And that kind of is how I centered my career.

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I love that. Now, you were a victim's advocate, and

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I want to get your your insight on a few things. First,

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I want to say how important do you think it

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is that victims are communicated with and notified prior to

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like a plea agreement being reached in a case, or

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at least communicating why? Because there are times, I know

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for a fact, I know some people who plea agreements

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were reached and they were never informed until everything was

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over with. And Of course, that's at the discretion of

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the district attorney's office and the judge in that case.

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But there's something to be said for telling someone and

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making them aware, right?

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Right, absolutely.

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And I think that they certainly should have a very

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large part in that. And that before accepting a plea agreement,

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that you should listen to those victims and hear what

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they have to say and their thoughts on the matter

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and on the sentence that may ultimately be read.

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I think that's very important. Also, what about the victim's

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right to be at least heard before a bond reduction

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is made?

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I think the same there.

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I think that it's critical to allow those people into

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the courtroom and to speak with them and get their

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opinions on that.

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I want to talk about something in 2024 that you

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had said that I wholeheartedly agree with. You said alternative

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sentences have to be balanced against whether a person is

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a risk to their community. Still believe that?

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Absolutely.

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I think that's a great quote. I think too many

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times it's not weighed in some cases, the crime versus

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the sentence. And I think it's important that that's done everywhere.

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Of course, with what you'll be dealing with initially, it's

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mainly misdemeanors. So we're not talking serious you know, second-degree

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murder trials and things like that. But that could always change, right?

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Right, yes.

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And then I also feel like on that misdemeanor level,

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it's very important to be able to get in early on.

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I feel like.

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Almost a lot of crimes, you know, your career criminals

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may start in misdemeanor court.

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Yeah.

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And it's very important there to look at the person,

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look at the crime, figure out, is this a person

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who– Connecting them with a certain rehabilitation partner, is that

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going to be the solution for them?

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Or do they need to spend some time.

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In jail and figuring it out and crafting the right

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solution for each case?

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Yeah, yeah, very good point. Considering you're running for this

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particular division, you know, it's not a brand new division.

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I know at one point we were talking about a

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brand new division that never existed before in this case.

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It's been around, and I'm sure you've kind of looked

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into it and saw how that was ran and the

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way things were going in that division. Is there anything

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that you would like to improve in that division or change?

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I think we have a great staff in that division.

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Yeah.

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Very excited about that. I know, though, I feel like

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there is always room for improvement.

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Sure.

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One big thing, technology, how it is rapidly advancing, and

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I think being able to take advantage of the good

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parts of that. I feel like some parts, you know,

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like you said, if you use Zoom, I think that

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in a lot of cases you use that, you lose

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that human interaction and that contact that's so integral.

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Yeah.

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But it's also important to recognize whenever some of those

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options may be what's necessary to make sure a case

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proceeds timely.

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Right.

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And then your juvenile cases, they're a little different. It, it's,

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Literally almost a different world. We have a completely different

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rule book that we are working with in juvenile court.

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There's different frameworks, statutory timelines that have to be met.

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So figuring out how to work within those parameters and

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how to do that efficiently and still make sure that

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the case is centered around the family unit and what

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is best for that child ultimately and then in your

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juvenile delinquency matters. balancing that out with your public safety risks,

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all of that, I think is just very important.

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You've been spending, you know, you announced relatively early that

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you were interested in running for this particular division. And

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you've been out there in the public. I'm going to

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tell you, we were talking about it off camera, y'all,

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but the energy that Ms. Lindy has is unbelievable. She

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is everywhere. She's always got a smile on her face.

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Some politicians, if you will, they say they enjoy meeting people,

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but you sure seem like you really do enjoy meeting

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people and getting out in the public.

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I really do, yes. I usually, I'm a little more shy, so.

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Well, this has helped to get you out of your shell,

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if anything, right?

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But it's so nice being able to, like, in announcing early,

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one good thing, I have had so much time to

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talk with everyone about their concerns and what they want

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to see from our courts. And where they think we're

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doing great, where they think we're lacking.

520
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Yeah.

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And I have really appreciated that opportunity.

522
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Yeah. Yeah. And it just seems like, you know, you're

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so genuine with when you meet people and especially with

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your message. And I think that's important is that I

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do believe that people, when you hear Lindy say something like,

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you know, She wants to be judged because she feels

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like that is where she can help the most. She

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actually means it. You know, talking points are talking points.

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I don't get the feeling, and I know it to

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be true, that you absolutely mean that you were doing

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this for that reason, that that is where you feel

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like you can help the most. I believe that. So

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I certainly wish you the best of luck. Are there

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any final thoughts that you have?

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I just.

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I encourage everyone to, with everything, you know, do your homework.

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Reach out if you have questions. Myself, everyone, just we

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all have websites. Contact me. I would love to sit

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down and meet with anyone. We have a few community

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forums coming up where candidates would be, and I'd love

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to talk with anyone.

542
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Yeah, and Lindy4, and it's the number 4, judge.com. You

543
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can get all the information there. you'd ever want on there.

544
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It's a very well done website. And I will put the,

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I'll actually link that in the description of this episode.

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So people can just click on it and go to

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it to learn more. November 3rd is the actual election.

548
00:27:27.259 --> 00:27:29.740
And is it, I think it's October 20th through the

549
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27th is early voting. Right.

550
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So there'll only be one Saturday available and election day

551
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is on a Tuesday.

552
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Yeah. So they're expecting, you know, they think usually history

553
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kind of tells us those are usually lower turnouts because

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it's during the week and people work. Don't let it be.

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Go out there and let your voice be heard. People,

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this is the most, to me, one of the most

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important freedoms we have in our country is the freedom

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to vote and let your voice be heard. But educate

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yourself on all the candidates in this race. Big, big race.

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A lot of big seats are up and And so

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important that people vote and let their voice be heard.

562
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But I appreciate you. Look, it is not for the

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weak running for these seats. It is not for the weak.

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And you have done it with a lot of class.

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And I love that. I like to see people run

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on their morals, their values, and what they can do.

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And that's what you've done. I appreciate you. To the listeners,

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go check it out. Go vote. Learn more. And until

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next time, for Local Leaders of Podcasts, I'm your host,

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Jim Chapman.