Aug. 23, 2024

Discussing the Caveat's of "Permitless" Conceal Carry With P & D Gun Shop #202

Discussing the Caveat's of "Permitless" Conceal Carry With P & D Gun Shop #202

In this episode, “Local Leaders the Podcast” Host Jim Chapman sits down with David Gross, owner of P&D Gun Shop, as they discuss Louisiana's SB1 law that allows residents 18 and older to carry concealed firearms without a permit. We cover the...

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In this episode, “Local Leaders the Podcast” Host Jim Chapman sits down with David Gross, owner of P&D Gun Shop, as they discuss Louisiana's SB1 law that allows residents 18 and older to carry concealed firearms without a permit. We cover the law's implications, including necessary knowledge of prohibited areas and the advantages of obtaining a concealed carry permit. They cover the importance of training, which is part of a vast array of classes offered at David’s business “P&D Gun Shop”, focusing on everything from safe handling and legal responsibilities, to preparing for emergency situations like mass shootings.

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Timestamps
01:01 Understanding Louisiana's SB1 Gun Law
08:07 Personal Experiences with Gun Laws
09:36 Louisiana's Concealed Handgun Permit Options
13:28 Prohibited Locations for Concealed Carry
17:05 Alcohol and Gun Carrying Regulations
21:22 Importance of Gun Training and Education
27:09 Specialized Classes for Different Needs
29:41 Fun and Engaging Firearm Classes
33:02 Permitless Carry and Concealed Carry Classes
36:47 Mass Shooter Response Training
41:16 Building Confidence through Training
47:05 P&D Gun Shop Services Overview
58:00 Legal Immunity with Concealed Carry Permit

P & D Gun Shop on the web: https://pdconcealedcarry.com
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On July twenty fourth of twenty twenty four, a new

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law came into effect Louisiana's SB one. It amended Louisiana's

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existing law requiring a concealed carry permit to legally conceal

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a firearm in the state of Louisiana for any one

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eighteen years or older that could carry legally otherwise. But

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there were a major caveats to that law that you

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need to be made aware of. Joining me today is,

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in my opinion and many others, likely the foremost expert

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in the state on the subject, David Gross of PEND

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Gunshop in Walker to Louisiana. So today we're going to

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talk about what has changed with that law, what P

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and D Gunshop can do to help, and many other topics.

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So Dave, first of all, thanks for coming on the podcast.

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Thanks for having me.

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Jim and this is your second time on Local Leaders,

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so you're a pro. Now, yes, sir, you to be

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my co host going forward.

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Let's do it.

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So a lot has changed in the past couple of

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months here in South Louisiana, in Louisiana in general, and

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a lot of that is to do with SB one.

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So I guess let's jump into it. Let's tell people

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about it and also what they may not know about

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it that we need to educate them.

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One absolutely, so at the beginning of the year with

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the new congressional session in the state or the new

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legislative session in the state, Blake Meguez authored Senate Bill one,

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which was ultimately passed and then signed into law by

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Governor Landry and went into effect on Independence Day of

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this year, July. Great day for it to go into

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a factor probably probably a reason for that. Yeah, And

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what Senate Bill one did was it Louisiana joined a

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list of other states that have constitutional or permitless carry

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allow on and our law specifically says that anyone eighteen

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or older that's otherwise eligible to be in possession of

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a firearm can carry a gun concealed in the state

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of Louisiana. But there's some caveats to that, some prohibited

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locations that we're going to go over. But other than that,

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as long as you're eighteen or over, eighteen or older

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and or otherwise able to be in possession of a gun,

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you can carry a gun concealed a handgun concealed in

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state Louisiana.

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So and when we say otherwise able, I would assume

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felonies would be something, you know, certain felonies. You can't

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carry a gun regardless of.

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No felonies, Yeah, have no felony. There's you know, if

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you're otherwise a person that's not able to be in

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possession of a gun probably knows, yeah, And they've been

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told by law enforcement that there are are by the

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courts that they're not able to be in possession of

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a gun. So if there are other I was able

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to be in possession of a gun that they can carry,

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no foundies for.

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Sure, gotcha? And other states have some other states do

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have constitutional carry. But does the age change in some states?

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Like do you have to be twenty one in some states?

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Or is it eighteen? And ever?

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Most states you have to be twenty one. Louisiana's on

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a few states that ought that allowed eighteen year olds,

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and I don't know how many there are. I believe

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there's twenty seven states now that allow constitutional or permitless carry.

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Some of those states, though, you must be a resident

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of that state.

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Gotcha.

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Louisiana. The actual bill that was presented initially said residents

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of Louisiana, and then that residence was stricken out. I

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wonder why that was the and I don't know, but

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now so in Louisiana, anyone eighteen year old, or you

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don't have to be a resident of Louisiana.

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Even if your state requires a permit, if you're in

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Louisiana without a permit and you're registered in a state

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that does require let's say California. I don't know if

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they even allow guns in California, but they did, probably not,

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but if they did, they would definitely make you have

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a permit. And so if you come into Louisiana, you're

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just bound by Louisiana law basically correct. But I would

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also ask you, as a butterfied expert on this and

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something that people probably need to keep in mind Louisiana,

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if you leave Louisiana and you end up somewhere where

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a permit is required, are you in legal trouble if

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you're concealing? Oh?

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Absolutely, and they and like I said earlier, some states

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may have permitless or constitutional carry, but only for the

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residents of their state. So you need to know the

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law if you're going to travel with the gun. Yeah,

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the specifically with a handgun. A lot of states. I'm

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originally from Indiana. I don't know what the laws are

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there today, but they used to be. If you're transporting

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a firearm in a vehicle without a permit. The gun

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had to be separate from the am at, locked up

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out of.

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The reach of the driver. Does you a whole lot

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of good at that point? And so.

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Yeah, and so some states, So if you're going to

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travel and you don't have a permit, you need you

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need to check out the laws not only where you're

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going to, but all the states that you're going to

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pass through. Right, some states have some very strict laws,

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specifically up in the northeast Illinois, uh and some states

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out west you're going to have you got some very

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strict laws that you need to be aware of because

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you could find yourself committing a felony and if law

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enforcement discovers that, not only are you going to get

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a phony charge, but you could end up losing your

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ability to own guns for the rest of your life

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and or vote.

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That's a great.

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Point, and I'll tell you, I'll give you a real

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life example of that. And Florida has changed a lot

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in the past few years as far as as guns

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are concerned and people's ability to carry them. But I

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don't know how many years it might have been. About

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twenty years ago, David. I had went. Now, it wasn't

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that long ago, maybe about fifteen years ago. I had

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went to Disney World, took my family, and I was raised,

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if you're going on a long trip, make sure you

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bring a handgun. You never know when you're going to

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break down on the side of the road on the interstate,

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and you don't want to have to go, you know,

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go get gas or whatever in the middle of the

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night and you don't have your gun on you. So

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we went to Disney World.

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We made it there.

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Everything was fine. I took the gun, put it in

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the safe in the hotel room, and we went about

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our business. And we ended up having to move rooms,

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and we moved rooms, and I left that gun in

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the safe and I didn't remember it until I'm in

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the other room and everybody settled, and I said, oh, man,

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I left my gun in the safe. So I called

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the front desk at Disney and I said, I need

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to get a gun out of the safe of my room. Oh, David,

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you wouldn't believe it. A swat team showed up at

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my door and they couldn't believe. The lady said, you

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had a gun on Disney property. And I said, I

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mean it's it was in my car, and I believe

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it in my car. Look, that was all it took.

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And it wasn't twenty minutes later. And these were policemen.

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These weren't security at Disney. These were Orlando police and

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they took my gun, would not give it back to me.

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Told me they had to bring it down to headquarters

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and I would essentially have to buy it back, so

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I would have to pay a fine and they would

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give me the gun back. But they had to run

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checks on me. They had to do all this background work.

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It was crazy, and I'm like, you know, and the

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guy kept asking me why I had a gun, and

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I said, I got three kids and a wife here.

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We came from Louisiana, and you know, I don't want

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to be caught slipping.

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Why does he have a gun?

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Yeah, I couldn't believe it. But it was my first

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experience with not knowing the laws of another state. Because

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Louisiana at that time, it wouldn't have been no big deal.

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You could open carry in Louisiana with no problem at

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that time. Still could. So I say all that to say,

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make sure you know the laws. We're going to talk

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about some of those today, because it's not the Wild West.

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Just because you can conceal it doesn't mean you can

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go anywhere and everywhere with it. So give us an

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idea of some of that.

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So some of the So, first of all, Louisiana still

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does offer a concealed hangum permit, and the process to

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do to get that is you take a class which

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we teach, Yeah, and then you apply to the state,

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you pay the fee, you get your permit. They have

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five year and lifetime permits. The fees very dependent if

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you're a veteran or free all the way up to

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one hundred and twenty five dollars for a five year permit.

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People sixty five an older pay half price which is

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sixty two fifty.

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Yeah, and that's five years, five years, that's twenty five

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very reasonable. Yeah, and then they have a lifetime permit

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which is five hundred dollars. Veterans are free also or

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over sixty five pay half price two point fifty, but

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you still have to take training every five years. Yeah,

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and that permit. When you get a concealed permit, and

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it's for Louisiana, you know, you get it in Louisiana,

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you're a citizen of or a resident in Louisiana.

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Does it Does it work in other states? Louisiana has

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reciprocity with thirty eight states total. There's thirty eight states

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that recognize our permit. So as long as you have

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the Louisiana permit in those thirty eight states, you're fine.

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You can carry a gun concealed. Now, you of course,

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have to adhere to their state loss Louisiana's. Louisiana doesn't

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have a law against printing or where in printing is

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just where you know, you could see the outline of

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the gun to a shirt or something like that. Some

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states considered printing brandishing, which is no different than me

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pulling the gun out. Wow, and that's interesting. So you

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need to be abreast of the laws. And then also

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prohibited locations, what places that you can carry in Louisiana

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may not be the same in Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Florida.

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Yeah, very interesting. Somewhere in my experience in Orlando, I mean,

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their gun laws were at that time were completely different apparently,

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and I found out the hard way. So let's talk

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about the change in this law that the concealed change

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and how it relates to where you can go, because

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it still matters if you you obviously still can't carry

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it in a courthouse, for example, even concealed right, right.

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So I've actually spoken with Blake Megaz the state senator

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who authored this bill and sponsored it and got to

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push through and approved, and almost everything is the same

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as to where you can go without a permit. But

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there's a couple of exceptions, and one of those, one

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of the big ones is school zones. And this is

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a federal law. And he told me that they are

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working to get this federal law changed, but of course

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that's not going to happen anytime soon. But this federal

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law is that you cannot be within a thousand feet

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of a school. And that doesn't matter if it's public private,

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everything from elementary to colleges, universities, technical schools, beauty colleges.

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You can't be within a thousand feet of a school

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with a gun and gun long gun, doesn't matter. It's

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that thousand foot gun drug free zone without a concealed

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handgun permit. Okay, if you live within a thousand feet

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of a school, of course, you can do what you want.

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In Louisiana for the most part on private property, and

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your vehicle is considered your private property. So you can

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drive by a school with a gun in your vehicle.

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But if you.

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Walk by a school within a thousand feet of a school,

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or for whatever reason, you're just out and you're on

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public property within a thousand feet of a school, then

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you're committing a felony major major thoft and the law

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says that you're subject to us. Here's the actual penalty

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as any person who violates this law this subject to

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five years of hard labor, no more than five years

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of hard labor.

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Wow, I don't want to do one day a hard labor.

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You know a lot about Angola.

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Imagine five year old. I don't want to be in

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that field for five years for sure. And serious stuff.

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I mean, this is gun related charges. And you could

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be someone that you know, maybe you didn't know, but

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that doesn't matter in the eyes of the law.

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And it actually even states that in the law that

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that just the fact that you didn't know you were

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within a thousand feet of the school is not a defense. Yeah,

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and let me tell you about one thing that's happened

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in a city not too far away, New Orleans. What

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New Orleans did when they tried. They tried initially to

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get the legislator to put the entire French Quarter as

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a gun free zone. A couple of years ago, Louisiana

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passed a law that said that gun laws that local

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municipalities couldn't infort or couldn't enact tougher gun laws than

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the state. Yeah, which is only fair because you know,

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I live in Walker, I shouldn't have to worry if

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I come to Denham Springs what the rules are in

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Denham Springs. Brides are going to be different. And so

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the state legislator said, Nope, we ain't doing that. And

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so New Orleans took this existing federal law that there

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is no way around right now and said that they

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took their French Quarter precinct and turned it into a

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sub campus of their police academy. Now it's a school.

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Now you can't have a gun within a thousand feet

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of that precinct, which pretty much covers the entire French Quarter. Yeah,

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and so it's not unless you have a permit. It's

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not a huge deal for you know, obviously, if you're drinking,

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you probably shouldn't have a gun down there. But plenty

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of people go to New Orleans not just to drink,

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just to do this stuff and eat and yeah, absolutely,

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And but think about the people that live there, that

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live in the French Quarter, and you know a lot

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of them park on the street, just that little bit

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of crossing from their doorway crossing the sidewalk to get

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in their car, they've committed to felony.

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Yeah, and if.

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Law enforcement wants to enforce that, then they could lose

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their ranch to ever on a gun again.

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And these could be good people, good citizens, you know,

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never commit to crime in their life. And that's something

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that I always tell people to keep in mind, is

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the only ones that don't care about laws or criminals, right,

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and so a criminal they're going to conceal caring no matter,

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you know, in a school or in a school, all

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those sorts of things. But those of us that are

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law abiding citizens that respect the law and follow the law,

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we need to know about those things because we're not criminals.

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And that's primarily why we're discussing this today because a

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lot of people did not realize. You brought up drinking,

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and I in my research of this, if you have

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a blood alcohol level of point five or higher, point

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zero five, point zero five, Yeah, excuse me, point five.

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Who we're partying at point five, David, we are partying

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point zero five or higher. You're in a bie. You

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can't conceal carry at point zero period or carry period.

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Yeah, and uh, you know point zero five. That's usually

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one drink for most people. Yink shot, beer, glass, wine, whatever,

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gonna put you over that legal limit.

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Yeah, and they do take that serious. Maybe you've only

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had one, maybe you're not drunk, but you've had one beer,

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but it's enough to blow that point oh five. And

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you've got a gun, Oh, you're in trouble. You're legal

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to drive, but yeah, not legal to carry a gun,

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that's right. And so just be aware of that because

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I have talked to several people who, you know, if

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they didn't realize that, if they go in a bar

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and they drink a beer, a single beer, and they've

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got a gun in their pocket, Uh, just don't let

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the police get you with it, because they're gonna throw

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the book at you for that. And let's talk about

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that real quick too while we're on the subject, Because

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I've had discussions with several police officers about what this

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does from their perspective. Because a lot of these officers

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are going there, they're already concerned about who has guns

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and who don't, one of the things from an officer's perspective.

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And most of these police officers are Second Amendment people.

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They totally want gun rights and they believe in gun rights.

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But if you put yourself in their position, Now you've

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got a law to where everybody can be carrying something

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that nobody can see at all times. What would your

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advice be to someone that is pulled over and uh,

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let's sing in a car, or they're approached in a

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setting and they have a concealed weapon.

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So the law actually says if you have a concealed weapon.

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It used to be if you had a concealed handgun

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permit that you had to notify law enforcement. Now if

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you have a concealed period, you have to notify law

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enforcement that you have a concealed gun. Concealed handgun. So

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if you're stopped in a traffic stop, uh, your witness,

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a crime witness, direct any any professional contact.

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With the law enforcement officer, if you're.

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Armed, you have to notify them, Yeah and uh, and

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then that gives that officer the right to ask you

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to submit to a pat down, to ask you to

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uh disarm you if they choose to do so, and

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uh also to ask you to submit to a breath lizer.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, And and I've had a you know, uh in

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the conversations I've had, officers have told me the best

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thing you can do is if you're pulled over and

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we approach it your window, put your hands on the

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steering wheel and say I have a you know, I

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have a gun in my glove box. I'm just letting

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you know it's there or whatever. But what I what

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I what I teach my classes, especially with the permit.

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You know, you think about you're pulled over in a

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dark street at night. You got your windows down, and

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you know you don't see the cop coming up on

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the passenger side of the vehicle. You're just watching the

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driver's side, and you say I got a gun, and

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then all of a sudden, the guy on the passenger

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side shows you his Yeah.

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Uh.

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But what I suggest is I put my permit on

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the front of my license and uh rather than using

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that scary G word when the police officer walks up

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to my vehicle, I'm handling my permit and my driver's

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license with a permit on top. I've been pulled over

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a couple of times, and every time it's gone well,

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you know the fact that I notified them immediately puts

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them a little more at ease. Sure, and uh, the

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fact that I got a permit permit, you know, you

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not only did you go get trained and get educated

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on the law, but you also had a background check,

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so they know that, you know, you're probably not a criminal.

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You're probably not the people that they need to be

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worried about.

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The ones they need to be worried about. They're not

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telling them about the right for sure. Exactly. There's an

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old saying, just because you can don't mean you should.

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And uh, so the requirement to have a permit has

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went away for all intents and purposes. However, it doesn't

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mean that you shouldn't have a permit, I guess would

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be the way of voicing that. And what are the

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things that for your permit classes? What are the things

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that you learn in those classes?

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So, first of all, I think the most important thing

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is just the education overall, the education on when and

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where you can carry or win and where you can't

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carry more importantly, Yeah, uh, and then the safety aspect

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of it. Look, Jim, I teach these classes every week

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and I've seen, you know, people that come that that

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claim to be experts, that scare the light arrange and

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so u. And remember, you know a lot lot of

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people in South Louisiana have grown up with guns, but

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they've grown up with long guns. They've grown up hunting. Yeah,

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twelve gage in the back of the truck window. They

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ain't got pistols now when you talk about putting a

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pistol on your body, and a lot of them don't

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have external safeties. And even if they do, safeties do malfunction. Sure,

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not only the training aspect of when where you can carry,

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but on how to get the gun into the fight.

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A gun that you're carrying on your hip that you

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can't get out quickly and get into the fight. Most

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violent encounters take place at double arms length distance and

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they're completely over with and under five seconds. Yeah, most

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people that strap a gun on every day can't get

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the gun out of their holster in every five seconds.

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So you'll get you'll be a victim with the gun

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on your hip if you don't know how to get

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it into the fight quickly and know how to use

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it safely to where you don't shoot yourself while you're

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trying to draw that gun.

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Yeah, very good point, and say you teach that in

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that in that class. If you have a permit, you're

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law abiding. First of all, right, you can't you can't

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get a permit if you have a felony. I would

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imagine that would disclais If you're a prohibited person, you

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probably ain't gonna get a permit. Yeah, right, the classes

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that you uge, let's kind of go into that a

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little bit, because in addition to permitting, with what we have, now,

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what I wouldn't want to see it personally a whole

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bunch of people do is then take a gun and

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hand it to your college aged daughter and say, here,

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put this in your purse. It's legal now, you know,

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pull the trigger. This is what you do. You pull

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the trigger if someone you know pointed at them and pull.

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Guns are not to be played with. Experts with guns

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have accidents. Accidents happen, but the point of training is

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to uh eliminate or significantly take away the circumstance of

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that accident happening. Your classes, y'all, I'm telling you, they

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are second to none. One of them. You teach speaking

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of handing some a gun to your daughter, is you

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teach a woman's class on handguns?

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Right?

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And so I'm married, I got a daughter, and I

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don't dare to teach either one of them because they're

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not gonna listen to it. They're gonna do the complete

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exact opposite of whatever I say. Totally get it, But

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when you're talking about a kid, you know, a daughter, son,

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doesn't matter. When our kids turn sixteen, they're eligible to

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get a driver's license. But we don't just toss them

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the keys and say here's the cues of the car,

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go drive to Baton Rouge and pick up whatever for me.

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They go to driver's head and they get some time

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behind the wheel and learn how to learn how to

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drive so that they don't get out there and kill

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themselves or kill somebody else. And that's a big benefit

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of have in the class is learning only you know

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when where you can have the gun, but more importantly,

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how to carry it safely so that you don't hurt yourself,

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you don't hurt somebody else.

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Uh.

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And you know you can't take that bullet back. When

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it leaves that barrel, it's gone for good. That's right,

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and you're responsible for whatever it hits and destroys. And

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if you don't know the gun, don't have confidence in

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the gun, you're not gonna it's it's gonna be pointless

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to carry it. It's no different than any other tool.

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If you're not confident with it, you don't trust it,

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you don't know it. And the only way you're going

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to get that develop that confidence and trust is through

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training and education.

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And so typically, more often than not, the females and

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the males of the house. Uh, the females are a

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little more fearful of guns. I know in my household.

468
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.079
It's like that I told you, I'll tell you a

469
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.400
quick story about my wife, and I guess i'll tell

470
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:58.319
everybody this story. But uh, I at one point I

471
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:02.440
had pulled my gun out of the night stand and

472
00:26:02.440 --> 00:26:04.400
and I pulled the clip out, and I was looking

473
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.039
at some things, and then I put it back in,

474
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:08.960
put it back in the night stance safely. And my

475
00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.960
wife says, you're not going to leave that thing loaded

476
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.200
or and I said, well, it's not gonna do me

477
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.079
a whole lot of good if it's not someone bust

478
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:22.440
in the house. But Honestly, that freaked her out. And

479
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:25.920
this was early on in our marriage, but it freaked

480
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:28.440
her out because she was scared. I didn't realize she was.

481
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.839
We never had that conversation, so I didn't realize she

482
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.640
was scared of guns. But just the fact that that

483
00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.160
gun was loaded totally freaked her out. And there's a

484
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.359
lot of people like that. So I think another advantage

485
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:44.640
to that class is, uh, you know, it'll make that

486
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:49.359
that person more confident with the gun and realized that

487
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.359
if you use a gun properly, it's it's not nothing

488
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.480
to be scared of. You don't have to fear a gun.

489
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.359
As a matter of fact, it could be your friend

490
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.160
in the right situation. You need to respect it. To

491
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:00.759
respect it.

492
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.359
I don't fear electricity, but I sure respected it.

493
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:04.920
That's right. That's right.

494
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.640
That's a great analogy. So that is a class that

495
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:13.519
you offer. There's real estate, uh safety classes that you offer.

496
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.480
A big there's a ton of relators in Livingston, pairs specifically,

497
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.200
and uh they meet with clients at all hours, a

498
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.519
lot of them they don't know in an empty house

499
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.599
in an empty house.

500
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:25.359
Uh.

501
00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:30.519
So it's opportunity city for someone that has bad intention right, and.

502
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.799
So with the ladies especially, we do we offer a

503
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.039
women's only first time handgun on a class more of

504
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.920
just you know how to use the gun safely, how

505
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:44.599
to how to uh rack the slide properly. A lot

506
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.839
of ladies think they can't rack the slide on a gun,

507
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.279
and it's all in technique. Most ladies can rack most

508
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.200
guns if they, you know, know the technique correctly, and

509
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.880
we teach them that, and then we also teach them,

510
00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.640
you know, what gun best fits their hand. A lot

511
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.640
of times these ladies are going to a big box

512
00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:04.319
store and they see a small gun and think, all

513
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.200
that small gun, it's a little recoil. Then little small

514
00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:11.240
guns I shoot all the time, and I hate shooting them.

515
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.279
And if you've got a wife that you don't want

516
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.359
to shoot a gun, get her one of them, a

517
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:18.319
little small guns and she'll change her mind.

518
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:19.400
She'll never shoot again.

519
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:24.039
If you want her to be to carry a gun

520
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:28.160
that she's comfortable with, then a little bit bigger gun

521
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.400
can absorb a lot more recoil and they're not that

522
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.920
hard to conceal if you know what you're doing. And

523
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.480
just like you said, you know, unless you're willing to

524
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:40.599
put around in the chamber and load that gun up.

525
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:42.720
It's kind of pointless when you think about it. You've

526
00:28:42.720 --> 00:28:45.640
got five seconds and now you've got to realize what's

527
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.039
happening and then get the gun into the fight.

528
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:50.559
Yeah, it's uh, egg.

529
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.440
Around for a club. Yeah, you're you know, you're just

530
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:57.400
waking up out of a dead sleep. All kinds of

531
00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.680
things can happen, so yeah, it's uh. And that I

532
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.519
really like about your classes is that you have classes

533
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:09.359
geared specifically towards ladies that they may now want a

534
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.720
bunch of men around while they're learning how to do

535
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.000
this right. Certainly not their husband. He's probably gonna be

536
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:19.079
you're doing it wrong, you know it is. So there

537
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.920
are some options there which I really like. But you

538
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:27.799
also have some classes for you know, maybe that it's

539
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:31.640
people familiar with guns, but they're not familiar with like

540
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.400
the air or fifteen for example, which is a different

541
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:40.400
animal than a glock forty two. You offer fundamental classes

542
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:42.279
for ars introduction classes.

543
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:46.240
So we are the two probably the two funniest classes

544
00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.079
that I offer that I love to teach and I

545
00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.000
love to take And people have a lot of time

546
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.240
with or have a good time with our self defense

547
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.519
pistol course or intermediate self defense pistol and then the

548
00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.000
AR fifteen. Both of those are all on the range

549
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.759
about four to four to five hours. On the range,

550
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.920
we'll shoot about five hundred rounds ammunition.

551
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:09.119
Wow, and we're.

552
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:12.279
Not going to empty thirty round magazines all at once.

553
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:12.920
We'll shoot.

554
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.599
For the pistol course, we'll shoot three to five round

555
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.279
shots at single and multiple targets.

556
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:18.960
Uh.

557
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:23.240
And uh, you know, depending on your comfort level and

558
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:28.200
my comfort level with your ability, right, we're going to

559
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:33.799
go to drawing from concealment because you know, the bad

560
00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:35.440
guy's not going to come up when you got the

561
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:36.960
gun in your hand. The bad guy is going to

562
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:39.960
come up at the at the best opportunity time for

563
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.039
them and not for you. That's great, and so you

564
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.319
got to you know, you got to get the gun

565
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.599
into the fight. And so that that intermediate self defense pistol,

566
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.079
we start out very basic and then progress up. They're

567
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.440
small classes. Uh, and we progress and we get to

568
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.160
the point where you're drawing from concealment and shooting at

569
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:02.440
single and multiple targets a lot of fun. Uh, And

570
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.640
it really builds your confidence in that gun. Yeah, the

571
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:11.079
AR fifteen course very similar. We take we take the

572
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.839
first part of the class and teach all the basics

573
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:19.319
of America's number one sporting rifle of AR fifteen, how

574
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:21.000
to take it apart, how to put it back together,

575
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:25.319
all the nomenclature, how to personalize it. You know, AR fifteen.

576
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.119
You can have it just plane Jane as it comes

577
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.960
off the factory floor, or it's like a car. You

578
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.960
can add all the bells and whistles that you want

579
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:33.319
on it.

580
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.319
That's what I want.

581
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:40.240
And then once we uh uh and and it's very easy,

582
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:44.000
very basic, very easy to maintain. You know, it's designed

583
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:45.359
to be maintained without tools.

584
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:46.720
Yeah. Uh.

585
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:50.119
And then we shoot and same thing. We're going to

586
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.680
shoot about five hundred rounds in about four hours and

587
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.920
two to four round shots at single multiple targets.

588
00:31:58.559 --> 00:31:59.720
Uh and uh.

589
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.960
Just teach you the fundamentals and it's just that, you know,

590
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.480
just reinforcing it over and over and over again until

591
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:08.640
you get it down.

592
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:15.359
Yeah. And look, y'all, these are classes you can't just

593
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.880
find anywhere another. You know, I have a lot of

594
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.119
businesses on this show that I'm like, man, we're pretty

595
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:26.640
fortunate to have a company here locally that offers this

596
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.480
and that, and you're one of those companies. You offer

597
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:33.920
so many things. And y'all, look, this guy was a

598
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.200
military guy for how many how many years there? Two

599
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.200
and a half, twenty two and a half years. We

600
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:43.960
love his service. But and what that does is lend's

601
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.480
legitimacy that this guy knows what he's talking about and

602
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.039
he's been around guns and trained the best of the

603
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:56.680
best with weaponry. And so for us to have that

604
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:00.759
right here in this area is pretty awesome. And you

605
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.480
can't just find that everywhere. It's it's rare that you

606
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.279
find someone that can teach why to read classes like this. Now,

607
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.359
you do offer a permitless carry class as well as

608
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.519
a concealed carry class.

609
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.799
So tell me about that. That permitless carry class. We

610
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:22.720
cover the prohibited locations without a permit, and the biggest

611
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:25.160
one is that is that school zone. Chair I'm being

612
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.480
within a thousand feet of a school. And then we

613
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.880
cover the laws of self defense, because the laws of

614
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.039
self defense apply to you whether you have a permit

615
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.960
or not, right, and so you can't just shoot somebody

616
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.680
that's walking through your yard or that's you know, that's

617
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.039
breaking into your car and your driveway that's unoccupied and

618
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.839
all that stuff, and a lot of people don't know that,

619
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.279
right and uh, and so you could very well find

620
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:55.039
yourself on the other end of the law just defending

621
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:58.039
your own personal property. Someone breaking into your car and

622
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.279
you go out and start pointing a gun at them,

623
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.680
or worse yet, kill them, you might find yourself living

624
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.160
the rest of your life out in Angola.

625
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:12.079
That's right, drag them in the house. Just kidding, just kidding,

626
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:18.079
but you're right. And and shooting people from the way

627
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.360
I understand that law. You have to You can only

628
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.960
use enough force that is considered reasonable for you to

629
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.440
get away. So, in other words, if you shoot someone

630
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.559
in the leg that's coming at you and then they

631
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:32.679
turn around to run and you shoot them four times

632
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:36.199
in the back, you might have a little explaining to

633
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.599
do on that one. But those are things you're going

634
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.559
to learn in that class and that you need to know. Heck,

635
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:45.039
you need to know that regardless because that situation could

636
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.039
come up. Sadly, y'all. Y'all know, I do another podcast

637
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:54.400
about crime and Hot and Heavy with crime on that podcast.

638
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.599
This is not the best time in Louisiana as it

639
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.119
relates to crime. And we've got a lot of crime

640
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.960
right in our back door here in Livingston Parish, across

641
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:09.599
the line in Baton Raage and you know, it's it's

642
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.199
as bad as it's ever been there, in my opinion,

643
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:20.920
no better time to learn gun safety, learn the laws

644
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.920
pertaining to guns, and don't just go out there and

645
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.559
buy a gun willing, Ellie, and you've never shot one. Look,

646
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:32.960
I've had friends David that have guns and they've never

647
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:37.360
shot him and they've had them twenty years. And that's fine,

648
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.199
but it's if the situation ever comes down to where

649
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.079
they have to use it they don't have any training,

650
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.719
the likelihood of them panicking is probably a lot higher.

651
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:50.360
Oh yeah, absolutely. And and you know, all the classes

652
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.519
that we teach are based off of what the body

653
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.039
does naturally in response to that stimuli being attacked, that

654
00:35:56.239 --> 00:36:00.880
bright or flight. You know, unless you've got something wrong

655
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.519
with you, we pretty much know how people are going

656
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.880
to react when it comes to a violent encounter. You're

657
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.039
going to hit that flight or flight mode. And uh,

658
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:13.239
if you haven't had training, you're not going to know

659
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:15.679
what to do. And the Army we taught, you know,

660
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:18.320
we talked about all the time. Trainers, you fight because

661
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.639
at the end of the day, you're going to fight

662
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.840
how you've trained, and if you haven't trained, you don't

663
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.719
even know what to do when the need arises. Yeah,

664
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.000
So good point. Muscle memory a lot of it. Yeah,

665
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:33.000
especially in a situation where you're in danger, because your

666
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:36.519
your brain is just going to go to, like you say,

667
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.199
fight or flight. It's going to be all reactioning. And

668
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.559
probably the biggest key to training and learning, UH is

669
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.000
through taking these classes Mass sheoter response, which is an

670
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:52.880
interesting class that you teach. Tell me about that, so

671
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.639
that that classes is really designed more for schools and

672
00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.239
businesses and churches and things like that, but uh, to

673
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.480
respond to a mass shooting. Unfortunately, we do a very

674
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.800
horrible job at educating our children when it comes to

675
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:09.960
mass shootings.

676
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:10.320
Uh.

677
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.159
All you know, Department of Homeland Security teaches run, hide, fight,

678
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:19.039
in that order, But all we teach in our schools

679
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:23.360
is hide. And you hear all these mass shootings, and

680
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.199
most of these mass shootings you hear of deaths and

681
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:29.719
very few injuries, and it always puzzle me, why are

682
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.360
there you know, surely this guy is that good of

683
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.840
a shot that they Yeah, sadly twenty people and twenty

684
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.719
of them died. No, I ain't buying it. But then

685
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.119
when you understand what why that happens is because again

686
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.800
those children, they don't they don't know any different. They

687
00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:50.519
know that they were told to hide, and then the

688
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.920
bad guy comes in the room and they freeze, and

689
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.599
then he's got stationary targets that just you know, just

690
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.960
pick him off one at a time. And so if

691
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.239
you look back at all this cool shootings, that's exactly

692
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:04.039
what you see is that these kids just they're they're

693
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:08.920
unprepared for that incident. And and so, you know, and

694
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.719
that doesn't just happen in schools. It happens in workplaces

695
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:12.519
and churches.

696
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:17.480
Churches, Yeah, yeah, I mean some pretty major incidents. And look,

697
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.400
it's a it's a sad subject that nobody wants to

698
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:23.599
talk about. And I think that's some of the problem

699
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.000
with it, and why you don't seem, you know, more

700
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:31.239
people taking advantage of that. To me, every teacher in

701
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:35.519
every school should have that class. There should be a

702
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:40.760
certification that they are required to take, you know, the

703
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:45.280
likelihood let's say, the likelihood of a teacher. We hope

704
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:48.119
nobody ever has to deal with that, and the likelihood

705
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.840
is low comparatively speaking to the amount of schools there

706
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.639
are in the country, but it could happen, and a

707
00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:56.880
class like that could be a difference.

708
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.679
Absolutely knowing what to do. You know, the in the

709
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.199
absence of a plan, people are going to create their

710
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:07.039
own plans. And my granddaughter told me that when her

711
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.280
teacher told her that if the bad guy comes in

712
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:10.840
the room, they're all going to try to jump out

713
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.559
the window. And I'm like, don't you don't want to

714
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.800
do that. Yeah, you're going to make a nice neat

715
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.119
pile for the corner right side the window.

716
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:17.679
Yeah.

717
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:18.239
Uh.

718
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.719
And so you know, run, hide, fight, If you can run,

719
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.440
get away from it, go And you know, most people

720
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:29.360
can judge from gunshots that it's happening way far away.

721
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.480
I got time to get my kids out of here,

722
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:32.320
that's right.

723
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:32.840
Uh.

724
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.280
And then if you can't, then you hide, and if

725
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.280
they come into the room or you encounter them, then

726
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.679
you fight like hell and you and there is no

727
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.440
such thing as a fair fight. If I'm throwing desks, chairs,

728
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:49.400
book sacks, laptops, it doesn't matter. Twenty five first graders

729
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.400
attack and a grown man are going to subdue them

730
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:57.199
pretty quick. Yeah, so, but we got to teach them

731
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.719
that that's right, and we got to teach you know,

732
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.239
when it comes to violence in the workplace and violence

733
00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:06.119
and churches. Schools only account for about twenty five percent

734
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.800
of all these mass shootings. The rest happen in workplaces

735
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.360
and churches and night club nightclubs, and people don't. You

736
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.199
don't hear as much about it because it's not as

737
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:20.440
tragic as it is. You know, twenty school aged kids dying, absolutely,

738
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.559
but it's happening everywhere, and so you never know when

739
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.039
you're going to need to respond to a mass shooter.

740
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.559
You're never going to know when you need to carry

741
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:31.159
a gun. You know, crime used to be confined to

742
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.840
the nighttime. All you got to do is right, just

743
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.519
look at the paper, look at the news every day

744
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.119
of the week, especially in our area here, it's happening everywhere.

745
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:43.599
The drugs and the crime is just out of control.

746
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.280
Out of control. And you know, I'm a big believer

747
00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:53.719
in that confidence creates a sense of a little panic

748
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.639
in someone's mind. And said, the more that I know,

749
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.400
the more comfion I feel that if I'm in a

750
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.039
situation like that, I'll know what to do and so

751
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.000
when that situation may or may not present itself, whatever

752
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.719
it is. Uh, taking classes like this, in my mind

753
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.920
just gives me the confidence to know that maybe I

754
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.880
want panic, because panic will get you killed in a heartbeat.

755
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:26.280
Most people will freeze when they panic. They don't have

756
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.920
any kind of muscle memory. They just sit there. And

757
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.519
it doesn't matter how big you are, how strong you are.

758
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:35.199
If you don't know what to do and you have

759
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:39.119
it drilled it, there's a high chance you're going to

760
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:42.079
panic in a situation when it really goes down. P

761
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.360
and D gun Shop, y'all, it's in Walker. It's at

762
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:49.719
three two two nine zero. Susser is a Sassar lane,

763
00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:53.119
so it's right there in Walker. I've been to it.

764
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:57.480
It's it's twenty minutes from my studio in Denham Springs.

765
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.880
And their stock they stock over one hundred guns at

766
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:04.079
any given time, correct roughly.

767
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:05.800
Well we've probably got a little more net.

768
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.280
Yeah.

769
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:07.119
Yeah.

770
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.079
Started out as a little hobby business and then COVID

771
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:12.239
took care of that and I hunted into a full

772
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:17.119
time job. It was just something in my backyard to

773
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:20.760
keep me busy, and yeah, and then it turned into

774
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.039
a full time job, but we did. We are a

775
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.000
full service gun store. When you pull up, like I said,

776
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.320
my shops behind my house, the uh we got uh

777
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.719
we've probably got one hundred long guns on the wall

778
00:42:32.760 --> 00:42:35.639
and uh, you know, probably the same number of handguns

779
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.679
in the shelf. The and then we've got all your

780
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:46.400
Amo accessories, knives and knives, tons of n yeah, especially

781
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:47.440
around Christmas time.

782
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:49.800
Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up. I do

783
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:56.199
want to mention you do Sarah Coate finish it. And

784
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.400
we were talking a little bit off camera. Y'all. Look,

785
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.079
if you got a man in your life, for if

786
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:03.119
you've got a woman in your life that loves guns

787
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.079
and uh and you want to do something special for

788
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.280
him for Christmas, you may have to tell them you

789
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.280
need the gun because at once the not ison't missing.

790
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.920
They're gonna freak out, but uh, just tell them it's

791
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:20.159
a surprise and get that sucker coated. You can do

792
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:23.639
all kinds of things Camo. We can do flag, we

793
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:25.719
get all kinds we get uh. So we can do

794
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:31.159
everything from just one simple colored ladies like the teal guns, yeah,

795
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:36.039
pink or purple. Uh, we could do camouflages. We can

796
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.519
do different designs.

797
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:37.840
Uh.

798
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.960
And Sarah Coota is just a very thin but pliable

799
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:44.679
and uh paint that we'll keep the gun from rusting.

800
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.000
Uh and uh and you know it's very durable, so

801
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.159
it's not gonna rub off as you're putting it in

802
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.519
and out of a holster and uh, it's just going

803
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:55.760
to last for a long time.

804
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.360
And you can also do it clear if you don't

805
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:01.679
want paint on right, and that's but you want something

806
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.679
to protect it, you can just do a clear on

807
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.119
it and and it'll still protect it. Those sort of things.

808
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.800
You also offer engraving another great gift idea.

809
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.000
So we do we Uh, we have a laser engraver

810
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.280
that engraves on wood or metal. We don't do anything

811
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:24.280
other than guns. But the wood we can engrave into

812
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.159
a stock. We can engrave very fine, intricate details into

813
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:28.599
a stock.

814
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.039
Yeah.

815
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:31.440
And some pictures should be popping up right now of

816
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.599
what he's talking about, y'all. And you talk about intricate

817
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:39.679
and down to the I mean the nth degree of

818
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:41.679
whatever you want to put on it.

819
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.920
And uh, and then the metal engraving is the same.

820
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.400
We can you know, we can put your name on

821
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.199
a gun if you want it, or we can put

822
00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.239
your business logo on a gun, or we can We've

823
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.800
done a couple of patriotic nineteen eleven's with we the

824
00:44:56.800 --> 00:45:01.599
people's stuff and flags, and so we've got we can

825
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.000
even engrave like on the front of the barrel bushing

826
00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.199
on a on a nineteen eleven engrave side on that.

827
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.880
So this thing is you might not even be able

828
00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:11.840
to read it, that it's so small, but it will

829
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.800
engrave it. You can look at it through a magnifying

830
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.519
glass and see that it's very, very detailed. We can

831
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.880
also engrave for those that have suppressors and things like that,

832
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.519
we can grave your serial numbers and all that stuff

833
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.360
onto your NFA items.

834
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:32.119
Yeah, very good. And as I say, you should be

835
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.320
seeing some pictures right now of the beautiful work you

836
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.719
do there. And of course you carry tons of knives

837
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.519
and I forget there's one up there and I need

838
00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.400
to get it, David. But it's the push button. It

839
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.599
just pops right out, so it's like a switchblay, but

840
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:49.400
not not a switchblay like.

841
00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:50.159
Listen right here.

842
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.880
Yes, it's out the front spring lighted. Yeah, these are

843
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.159
league on all fifty states out the front.

844
00:45:55.800 --> 00:45:56.559
That's a cool life.

845
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.440
They they'll stop if they hit something, so you don't

846
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:01.039
have to worry about out of cutting you if it

847
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:05.119
comes open in your pocket. Yeah, and lifetime warranty on

848
00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:05.880
these things.

849
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.599
And let me tell you, stick that in a stocking

850
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.960
and watch the smile on your spouse's face when they

851
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:13.440
get that.

852
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:14.199
There.

853
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:16.880
There ain't hardly anyone walking earth that wouldn't want one

854
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.400
of those. I sell a ton of Christmas time. Yeah,

855
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.079
I can imagine so uh some great gifts. And of

856
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.639
course this time of year. Heck, it's on September, so

857
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:31.480
it's right around the corner on something like the engraving.

858
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:34.480
About what's the turnaround time on something like that? And

859
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.920
I know it matters what you're getting done, but average

860
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.239
maybe allow a couple of weeks or a couple of

861
00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:41.039
weeks normally.

862
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:42.639
Yeah, that's not bad. I have it.

863
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:45.559
The guy that does my engraving works for me part time.

864
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.719
So right now he's in New York, but he's coming

865
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.840
back here in a few days. But uh, normally, uh,

866
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:55.320
normally within a week, if he's in town, I can

867
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:56.760
have I can have it done.

868
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.280
So very good. And another thing we want to mention

869
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.519
in addition to your store is you offer gunsmithing services. Uh.

870
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.000
Another thing that we're lucky to have around here is

871
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:16.000
good gunsmiths like you that they can fix I guess

872
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.079
pretty much any issue with a gun that's fixable most issues.

873
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.880
Yeah, uh and uh, I'm a gunsmith. And then I

874
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:26.800
have another gunsmith that works for me, and he's very Uh.

875
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:30.039
He don't like to let a problem beat him, so

876
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:30.920
he's gonna he's.

877
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.159
Gonna work challenge. He likes the challenge.

878
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.920
And so uh, we can do most things as long

879
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:39.159
as you know, as long as we can.

880
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:39.800
Get parts for it.

881
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:43.360
Yeah, and uh, and some parts we even have to

882
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:46.599
make at times. But yeah, we do gunsmithing, and we

883
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.840
can thread barrels, we can lighten or trigger, we can

884
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.840
do custom stuff. We can just repair guns.

885
00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:54.559
Uh.

886
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.519
The uh, you'll be surprised how many guns break out there,

887
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.519
you know, just common things that happened and shure, so

888
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.360
we can repair them. And we got pretty fast turned

889
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:05.519
around on that as well.

890
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.719
And I'll tell you there's probably a lot of people

891
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.280
out there that have airloom guns, for example, that maybe

892
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:16.159
been passed down and maybe they want to see if

893
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:20.760
it's it's an operational order or uh, maybe it looks

894
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:22.960
like it's an operational order, but it's you know, one

895
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.039
hundred years old, and you want to make sure that

896
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:27.840
if you fired, it's gonna you know, it's not gonna

897
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.920
be a problem. Yeah, the barrel ain't gonna fly off.

898
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:33.400
That's something that they could take to you and you

899
00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:34.400
can figure out for them.

900
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.840
And I think we fixed every heirloom gun that was

901
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:40.280
in the closet during during COVID when everybody was home

902
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.559
and went through all their closets. Maybe we have so

903
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.719
many guns in for gunsmithing, and really, oh yeah, we

904
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.199
had a ton of them, ain't.

905
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.039
That's something you know a lot of you're sitting around

906
00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:52.679
your house and you're like, what is it that I

907
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:54.800
need to get done that I've never had because a

908
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.280
lot of people are stuck at home, and one of

909
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.840
those things was guns and painting your house. A lot

910
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:03.280
of people painting their house. Those sorts of things. I've got,

911
00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:05.559
I believe it or not. I still have my very

912
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:08.920
first gun I ever got when I was about it

913
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:10.800
might have been nine years old. I got a crack

914
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.679
barrel shotgun to squore a hunt with a crack barrel.

915
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:18.000
And I still have that gun, but I'd be scared

916
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:21.000
to death the fire. I might let you look at

917
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:25.320
that one. It's probably good to go. But yeah, well

918
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:27.719
we'll just double check it make sure. Yeah, it's really

919
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.920
a cool, cool looking gun. And I'm a nostalgic guy.

920
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.159
So if if you have any gun smith in needs,

921
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:40.440
give them a call. Another thing I want to ask y'all.

922
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:43.639
Do y'all offer like zeroing out of weapons and things

923
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:44.079
like that.

924
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:49.760
So we do free bore sighting on rifles. Bring it in, Well,

925
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.760
we'll bore sight it for you for free. It doesn't

926
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.199
take but just ten to fifteen seconds to actually knock

927
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:55.559
it out.

928
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:56.320
Wow.

929
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.159
And any any parts that you for most generally we

930
00:50:01.239 --> 00:50:04.119
install them for free. Oh so if you buy scope

931
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:06.760
or or something like that, we install it for free

932
00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:08.079
and we'll bore cite it.

933
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:08.559
Now.

934
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.679
Bor siding isn't the same as zeroing, but it's going

935
00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:13.760
to get you on paper and save you some AMMO.

936
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.199
You can zero it for you. I mean, it's really

937
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.920
ideal that you zero your own rifle. But sure, if

938
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.199
if you don't know how to or don't have the

939
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:24.239
time to do that, we can zero it for you.

940
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.239
But we can definitely boreside it for you for free. Yeah,

941
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:29.719
very cool, very good.

942
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:36.880
How has I guess I would have this question for you?

943
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:40.719
You know, when you saw this law take effect or

944
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.960
lack of I guess lack of a law now where

945
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.039
you don't have to have the permit technically. One of

946
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:51.039
my thoughts when it first happened was, well, for someone

947
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:54.639
that teaches permit classes, this could be a good thing

948
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:58.079
or this could be a bad thing. You know, your

949
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.559
hope is that people say, I still want to learn,

950
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:05.440
regardless of whether I have to. And really major purpose

951
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.239
of why we're talking about this today is to hammer

952
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:14.039
down the fact that, you know the fact that you

953
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.400
have the right now to conceal that weapon. It's still

954
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.320
very important you educate yourself on it. Did you see

955
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:24.199
an uptick maybe or was it pretty much the same?

956
00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.679
Or from a gun purchase standpoint, did you see a

957
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:29.960
jumping purchases of guns?

958
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:31.119
Not really.

959
00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:34.280
You know, I've had several people come in and say, oh,

960
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.480
I don't need to permit anymore, and then I explained

961
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.719
to them why they probably still need to get a permit,

962
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.800
and there's some other reasons why to get a permit.

963
00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:44.039
You know, you have the first of all, being able

964
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:46.159
to be within a thousand feet of a school with

965
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.840
a concealed handgun permit. I can walk right down Range

966
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.159
Boulevard right in front of Walker High School and the

967
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.960
elementary school there and have no fear whatsoever. Now I

968
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.199
can't step on to school property with it unlessen in

969
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:04.239
my vehicle. Yeah, but if you're otherwise just walking down road,

970
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.360
you can't get within a thousand feet of that school.

971
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:11.320
So that's one of the main benefits. Secondly is the reciprocity,

972
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.920
so being covered in thirty eight states total that you

973
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.079
can transfer, you can have that gun with you, and

974
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:20.599
then a lot of people, especially in Louisiana that have

975
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.239
twit cards and things like that, people get delayed when

976
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:26.840
they purchase a gun. When you purchase a gun in Louisiana,

977
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:32.840
you can Most people leave with the gun right after

978
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:34.960
they pay for it. You know, within minutes they're out

979
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.920
the door. Background check processes pretty quick some people, however,

980
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:41.320
though I know you probably ain't gonna believe this, but

981
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.679
our federal government's not very efficient.

982
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:44.119
And.

983
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:53.960
I know it's hard to believe, but people get delayed

984
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.480
for a variety of reasons. You might have a very

985
00:52:56.519 --> 00:53:02.159
common name you might have you know, somebody used your

986
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.760
name in the past and and uh committed a crime

987
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.360
or or I mean just a variety of.

988
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:11.760
Reasons, believe it or not. I got delayed. I had

989
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:16.000
bought a pistol one time, and uh, the guy come

990
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.400
out and he says, well, it's five days and uh

991
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.920
and I said why and he said, I don't know us. Yeah,

992
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.079
they don't. They didn't tell and to this day, I

993
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:28.719
have no idea why. But uh, you know, I got

994
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:30.679
delayed and five days later he said, okay, you can

995
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:33.360
come in and get it. And so that's that was

996
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.519
fine with me. If if if they wanted to make

997
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:41.920
sure I wasn't CRUP, then that was fine. I was

998
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:46.119
curious as to why, but uh, I never did find out.

999
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.400
But you can find out. You can contact the ATF

1000
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:51.639
and UH they'll tell you why you got delayed. And

1001
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:55.360
then issue was called a u PEN, a unique personal

1002
00:53:55.400 --> 00:54:00.159
identified personal identification number. But also if you have a

1003
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:04.079
concealed handgun permit in Louisiana and you go to purchase

1004
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:05.880
a gun, as long as a permit was issued in

1005
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.000
the last five years, that we go online and make

1006
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:13.159
sure you permit is still valid. That eliminates that background

1007
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.559
check process. You still fill out the form, we just

1008
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:18.239
don't have to call it into the ATF.

1009
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:21.719
Okay, well, that's good to know. And also one other

1010
00:54:21.760 --> 00:54:26.159
thing on permits that I would also say is, just

1011
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:31.599
like this law was changed to now you know permit,

1012
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:35.239
let's carry, it can always change back. Oh yeah, and

1013
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.840
you know, so if you have a lifetime permit concealed,

1014
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:43.199
if it changes back, you have the same You don't

1015
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.760
have to worry about it, and that big deal. So

1016
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:51.760
for the cost of it alone, it's not an expensive clas,

1017
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.440
it's not what I would classify as an expensive class.

1018
00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:57.800
But also on top of it, what you get out

1019
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:00.519
of it, the value you get out of it is

1020
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.159
worth so much more. And you've got that permit, you

1021
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:05.760
don't have to worry about it no matter what the

1022
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.639
law says, if you give any And I do support

1023
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.000
the Second Amendment, but I also support education. And I

1024
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.480
think that anybody that has a weapon that can kill

1025
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:18.440
another person needs to be educated on how to use it.

1026
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:22.719
And that's where you are so valuable and your business

1027
00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:26.920
is so valuable. With that, I also want to mention

1028
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:32.079
that you can go on his website. It's Pdconcealed Carry

1029
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:35.559
dot com and you can actually they have an option

1030
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:37.360
where you can check out the classes and you can

1031
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:41.840
schedule right there online. You can better than that, But

1032
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:43.559
I encourage you to go out there because they have

1033
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.599
a cool shop. Trust me, if you if you at

1034
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:50.480
any length like guns or knives, you're gonna end up

1035
00:55:50.519 --> 00:55:52.199
there an hour and a half just staring at all

1036
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:52.800
the cool stuff.

1037
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:54.840
And I promise you got some stuff in there that.

1038
00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:02.719
Just about anybody absolutely holsters. Also, y'all bullets if you

1039
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.239
need just bullets, go go support local businesses. Get your

1040
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:11.079
bullets from a local business like P and D gun Shop.

1041
00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:14.400
Promise you, David to take are the good people over there,

1042
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.320
and thank you for coming on again and educating us

1043
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.639
a little bit. Any final thoughts.

1044
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.039
The h no, I just want to thank you for

1045
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.719
having me. I do want to mention one other thing

1046
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:26.239
real quick, Jim, is you know when they signed Senate

1047
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:30.599
Bill one, Blake Meguez also authored and got Senate Bill

1048
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.119
two pushed through and signed by the governor, which went

1049
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:35.960
into effect the same day on Independence Day of this year,

1050
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.960
and Senate Bill to Another benefit of having that permit

1051
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.920
is it gives community to civil lawsuits if if you're

1052
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:47.519
otherwise justified, and they have to be otherwise justified. But

1053
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.400
if if you use a gun in self defense and

1054
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:54.400
they and law enforcement says you were justifying doing that,

1055
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.639
if you have a concealed handgup permit, if you're a veteran,

1056
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:03.639
or if you're law ENFORCEMN you have immunity from civil lawsuits.

1057
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:05.000
That's huge.

1058
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:06.960
That's and we're in a sue happy state.

1059
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:09.039
So that's what I was about to say. Let me

1060
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.119
tell you if you're involved in a shooting, I'm gonna

1061
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.119
give you a scenario of people. If you're involved in shooting,

1062
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:19.400
someone comes on your property and they kicking your door

1063
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.679
and you shoot them right there, they're going to see you.

1064
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:27.400
If they love, They're going to see you, period, because

1065
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:29.400
some lawyer is going to get a hold of them

1066
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:35.079
and say, you know, we can see these people. When

1067
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.639
David just mentioned it has to be lawful, you know,

1068
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:41.320
just like you teaching in your classes. If they're running

1069
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:45.239
away from you and they're halfway out of your driveway

1070
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.000
and you shoot them in the back four times, it's

1071
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.880
not going to give you amenity on that right. But

1072
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.480
if you're in the right and you're defending yourself, and

1073
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.239
you can prove that you're defending yourself, that gives you

1074
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:00.760
full immunity just by half that permit.

1075
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:02.199
Correct, that's huge.

1076
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.400
And why do they give you that Because you have

1077
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.840
education behind you. You've been to classes where you know

1078
00:58:09.199 --> 00:58:11.199
how to properly handle that situation.

1079
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:12.199
Yeah.

1080
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:14.840
And I you know a lot of people will will say, well,

1081
00:58:14.920 --> 00:58:18.280
you know if you if you take a class, that

1082
00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:20.360
you're going to be held to a higher standard. And

1083
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:23.519
I my argument to that is, you know, first of all,

1084
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:25.159
if you have a lawyer that allows you to be

1085
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.760
held to a higher standard, you need to fire them, right,

1086
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:30.559
Because if I go out here to Range Boulevard and

1087
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.880
on my motorcycle and do one hundred and fifty miles

1088
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.800
an hour and never see a speed limit sign, does

1089
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:37.639
that mean when I get pulled over that I'm not

1090
00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:39.559
going to get a ticket. No, I'm going to get

1091
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.039
a ticket. Yeah. And just the fact that I didn't

1092
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.440
know the speed limit is not going to be a defense, right.

1093
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:51.519
And so when you educate yourself, you know, I view

1094
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:55.440
it as I went and got educated, and therefore I

1095
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.239
knew that I didn't have any other option, and the

1096
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:01.679
gun was my last resort. Even if they don't, their family.

1097
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:01.840
Can sue you.

1098
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:05.400
That's right, that's right, very good point. And it's sad.

1099
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.280
It's sad that defending yourself leads to those things, but

1100
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:12.679
that is the world that we're in now, and so

1101
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:17.800
education will not only keep you to where maybe you

1102
00:59:17.840 --> 00:59:20.159
don't put yourself in a position that you don't even

1103
00:59:20.199 --> 00:59:23.480
realize you're putting yourself in, because you know what's right

1104
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:26.280
and what's wrong, and what's legal and what's not, but

1105
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.400
it will also kind of kind of give you the

1106
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:34.880
peace of mind of hey, we're standing behind you if

1107
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:38.320
you get in a situation where something sadly would happen

1108
00:59:38.440 --> 00:59:41.679
like that. So protect yourself out there. People. It's a

1109
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:45.880
it's a world's a crazy place right now, say the least.

1110
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:51.079
But thank you again for coming on, love man, love

1111
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:54.400
your business. I've bought things from you, about to take

1112
00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:58.199
a class you here pretty soon with with one of

1113
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.400
David's classes, but also gonna get some more equipment that

1114
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.039
we've been talking about. So maybe one day i'll set

1115
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:06.519
it up for the next podcast we do. I'm not

1116
01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:10.440
gonna tell. I'll let y'all be surprised at what I'm getting,

1117
01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:12.599
but Thank you so much for coming on. I always

1118
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:14.599
appreciate it and have a good time, all right, Jim,

1119
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:18.760
I appreciate you. Thank all of y'all for listening and look,

1120
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:21.239
give us a like, give us a share, give us

1121
01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:24.519
a follow. If you need more information on P and D,

1122
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.440
I'm gonna link it in the description of this podcast.

1123
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:29.800
I'll have his website and his Facebook. Give him a

1124
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:34.519
like on Facebook, and that way you can stay tuned

1125
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.119
because he's probably gonna be running some sales and things

1126
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.639
like that as it gets closer to Christmas. And until

1127
01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:44.000
next time, I'm Jim Chapman reminding you love your community,

1128
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:47.559
support local business, and keep it lating. Thank you very much,