P & D Conceal Carry and Gun Shop | Local Leaders the Podcast #189

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Hi, This is Laurie Johnson with
Hancock Whitney Bank and you're listening to Local

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Leaders the podcast. Visit Local Leaders
the podcast dot com for previous episodes or

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for information on appearing on the show. Hey everyone, and welcome back to

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another edition of Local Leaders the Podcast. We have a treat for y'all today,

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to say the least, We have
a gentleman here that owns a business

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that we have never had the pleasure
of really podcasting this type of business on

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Local Leaders. His name is David
Gross and he owns PND Concealed Carry and

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gunshops. So, first of all, welcome to Local Leaders. Thank you.

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There is a lot of important information
when it comes to conceal carry that

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people need to learn and know,
and there's also a lot of important information

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regarding guns of general that people need
to be aware of. So he's been

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very kind to come by today and
gonna talk about all that, and we're

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gonna tell you a little bit about
David first, So, David, you're

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not originally from Louisiana. Uh No, Jim, I'm originally from Indiana,

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Indiana. There you go, the
other adianas Yes, sir, very good.

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And how did you end up in
the Deep South. So I spent

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twenty two and a half years in
the Army. Go Army, beat Navy.

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And this was my last assignment.
Yeah. I was assigned as the

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star major for the at that time
was the New Orleans Recruiting Battalion, and

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we covered all Louisiana and had two
recruiting stasions in Mississippi. Very good.

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Six weeks after I get here,
which I was assigned to New Orleans and

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Hurricane Katrina hit uh. Good,
that was my perfect time Indiana gift.

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Yeah, and so we're actually welcome
to Louisiana, no doubt. Well that

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was just the first of many,
but then the second. So we've accuated

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our battalion up to Fort Poe,
and then a month later Hurricane Rita chase

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us up there and hit us sent
for polpe uh. And then a year

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later we decided to move our headquarters
to Baton Rouge at the Neural Medical Center.

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And that's when I moved to Walker
and been there ever since. So

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I had grandkids and the Army wanted
me to move, and I don't want

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to leave my grandkids, so I
decided to retire very good, well sort

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of retire start a second life really
because you did as you retired, and

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thank you for your service. We
love our servicemen around here. Twenty two

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and a half years. That's what
you call commitment, and that speaks to

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me a lot about you personally.
And so look, that's important, especially

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when you're looking for instructors for concealed
carry in my opinion, but you so

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much more than that, and we're
going to kind of get into not only

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what you do with concealed carry,
but also the other things that you offer

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with your gunshop. All of those
important. I do want to shout out

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before we get started. All the
people that responded I sent out. Most

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of you or a lot of you
are on my email list. If you're

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not, just shoot me a message. I'll add you to it. But

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every time I have a guest on, I send out a little email that

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says, Hey, any questions you
want me to ask ask them. Me

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and David set this up really fast, and so I was concerned we're getting

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a lot of questions back in time. We actually had a ton of people

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respond to that. So thank you
very much. I promise you we're gonna

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cover all y'all's questions today now you're
in Walker, and your shop is in

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Walker, and this is also where
you teach your concealed carry classes. Yes,

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sir, so do my shops in
Walker. It's actually behind my house.

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Yeah, full time shop and my
classroom for my classes is there.

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But my range is actually up in
Pine Grove. Very good, very good.

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And we're gonna get into why that
ranges so important and how that,

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how that plays a part in you
getting your concealed carry permit. I do

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want to pop the address out there
real quick, which is three two two

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nine Z word Sasser Lane. And
they are open Monday through Friday from nine

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to five thirty in Saturday from nine
to two very good, in great hours,

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you know, so if you get
off work at four, you still

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got time to go buy there and
buy you some mo or whatever. And

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uh, and they're open on Saturdays
for those people that just can't make them

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out there during the week. Uh. Let's talk about concealed carry for a

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minute. And this is something in
Louisiana that you know. Technically, Louisiana

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is an open carry state, folks, And maybe maybe David describe what open

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carry would would mean. So open
carry um means that the gun is visible.

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Yeah, you know, like old
West times. Basically, you know,

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you can have a belt with bullets. Ye, you've seen that with

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bullets a bunch of speedloaders. Yeah, all kind of creative stuff. But

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open carry, yes, So actually, the you know, everybody can see

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that you have a game right.
And one of the questions that I've been

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asking the past when it comes to
conceal carry is well, heck, if

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you're open carry, why do you
need to conceal carry permit? Well,

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I think me and David are going
to kind of cover some of those and

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I'll throw one out there just off
the bat, and that is, Hey,

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guns make people nervous. And and
so when someone goes in Walmart,

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even though they you know, they
have, their full right is to carry

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that gun and open carry it.
And hey, if that's you, you

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do you. I'm not criticizing,
but a lot of people don't want that

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attention right on them. When you're
carrying a gun out and you open you

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do you draw un necessary attention to
yourself. People just wonder why a person

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in surveying closes carrying a gun.
Yeah. And then the probably the worst

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part of that is if you're in
an area where something bad is about happen.

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Uh, and the bad guys sees
it. You're the only one there

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with a gun. Yep. Who
do you think first target's gonna be?

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Yep? And we in the podcast
business call what you just did hitting the

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nail on the head. That's exactly
right. You become the target. If

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someone is there to to do something, pull some tomfoolery for example, and

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you're standing there and you're the only
one with a visible gun, you are

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the one they're gonna shoot first because
you just became a threat. Now,

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if that's concealed, they don't know
you have it, you can still h

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you know, protect the situation without
anybody knowing you're the threat. I think

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that's a huge difference. So while
yes, you can consider you can open

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carry, that is definitely a good
argument for why you maybe you shouldn't open

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carry if you you know, and
why you should get a concealed carry permit.

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Would you agree with that? The
actions always faster than reaction, and

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so the bad guy knows what he's
going to do, and if he sees

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that you have a gun on your
hip, I'm if I'm the bad guy,

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I'm gonna get you. When when
you least expected. I'm not going

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to wait for you to draw the
gun. I'm gonna get you when the

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gun still in your holster. That's
right. And so I just remember actions

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always faster and reaction that's right.
I love that. I love that saying.

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And actually one of my creed probably
life creeds, is I always want

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to be proactive and not reactive.
Um And in this society today, it

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seems like everybody reacts and nobody is
proactive or limited very limited people are proactive.

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So love that. Now, let's
talk about for uh, for our

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listeners out there that hey, I
pay attention to the news or maybe they

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watch real life real crime daily or
listen to real life real crime daily and

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they realize that crime is an issue
right now. Look nationally, it's an

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issue. Locally, Louisiana Baton Ridge
huge issue. You may be shocked to

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know, folks, we are the
highest we are now the highest crime state

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in the Union. We are this. You know, Louisiana is as bad

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as it gets as far as crime. Now. There's a hundred ways that

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me and David could argue why that
is. But the fact is we're here,

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and the fact is if you read
the paper, you watch the news,

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you listen in real life for real
crime daily, you may realize that

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people just don't have their respect for
human life they used to it sure,

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sure seems like that. And we
don't want to sound like two old guys

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on here, but we remember what
it was like when you know, you

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didn't necessarily resort to guns. You
have a disagreement and you know, maybe

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you threw some fist or something,
but you didn't pull out a gun.

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That's shange. Yes it has.
And because of those changes, it's probably,

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in my opinion, more important than
ever to consider conceal carry option.

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You agree with that, oh,
absolutely, I think any in any situation,

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your your best course of action is
avoidance. Yeah, you can avoid

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a situation by all means, that's
what you need to do, yes,

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but you need to be prepared for
those situations when you can't avoid it,

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that's right, and so um you
know that's why I carry a gun is

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because I want to if I get
into situation where I can't avoid it and

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I have to defend my life or
I have to defend the lives of those

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that I love, then I want
to be able to do that. Yeah,

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Yeah, what are you ever tin
we call that, don't get caught

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slipping. He says, it ain't
gonna catch me slipping. Uh, and

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you you really don't to uh,
you know, but an assue with and

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look, we're gonna we're gonna talk
about females. We're gonna talk about males

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here, because there's a lot of
males out there that aren't familiar with guns.

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Let's face it, probably if you
looked at it, statistically, females

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are more likely not to be familiar. Maybe as an overall group, but

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look, I know some females.
Don't get me wrong that they can work

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their way round a gun just fine. They got new problems there. Daddy

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taught them well. And women are
the fastest growing market when it comes to

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guns, absolutely, more and more
women buying guns, more and more women

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arming themselves, women getting involved in
competitive shooting. Yeah. Really, wow,

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that's interesting, and it's it's usually
pretty cool of my classes. When

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I see a couple come and the
husband acts like he's teaching the wife,

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but in reality the wife ends up
shooting further than the husbands would. That

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would be my luck and I would
never hit the end of it. I

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can promise you very good, and
so we're gonna get into that. Look.

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One of the things with UH,
with David in particular and PND is

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their classes, what they offer really
blew me away. And so we were

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just talking about women, and I
think this is important that David offers a

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woman's New Handgun Owner class. Um. And the specifics of this class or

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what kind of sets it apart is
men ain't allowed. It's it's women only.

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Um. Uh. So there's a
lot of women out there, and

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I'm sure David kind of pulled the
community. And hey, you know,

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one of the hesitations with maybe them
as as women is they're not comfortable with

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a bunch of guys there because it
look it can be intimidating. The guys

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think they could. You know,
I've shot everything that walks acrawled at one

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point, and maybe the females never
picked up a gun and she doesn't want

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all that pressure. So you address
that and you have a woman's only new

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handgun class. Tell me about that. It's a it's a it's a two

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our class gym usually or we do
it on the third Thursday of every month

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and from sixty eight ladies come in
and we have a handful of guns.

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I have a gun story, as
we mentioned, and so we bring a

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handful of guns into the classroom.
We let them hold them, touch them,

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feel them, teach them how to
rack the slide on SIMI automatic,

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and then help them find a gun
that best fits them, fits their hands,

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something that they're comfortable shoot ward and
very important. Yes, oftentimes,

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you know, ladies come in thinking
that these little small three eighties are what

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they want to carry because it's small. But in reality, those little small

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guns got a lot of kick to
them. Yeah, if it's a bigger

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gun, it's going to have less
recoil. The gun's going to absorb more

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recoil than your hand. If it's
a small gun, there's no gun to

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absorb that recoil, so therefore the
shooter has to absorb it. And so

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a great point. Yeah, a
lot of times ladies would buy a gun,

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or someone will buy them for their
spouse or or significant other, and

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because they're a woman, choose a
little small three eighty. Yeah, and

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we got plenty of nine millimeters that
have more knockdown power and uh and are

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going to absorb to recall a whole
lot better. Yeah, and still be

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small enough. That a lady h
could conceal it on her body if she

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wanted to do that. Very good
and look y'all. This is something to

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consider, And I thought about this
last night when I was preparing for this

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podcast. So I have two girls. They're going to college LUM actually in

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a couple of months. I'm worried. I'm worried because LSU as a campus,

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maybe you're somewhat safe, but it
ain't too far. You gotta venture

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off of that campus before you know. Daddy gets real nervous about that.

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UM. And I was thinking,
you know, should I put them in

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some of these classes, because Daddy
would never forgive himself if something God forbid

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were to happen to them and I
didn't do everything I could to train them

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or maybe, you know, offer
them some firearm training at least I'll pay

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for it, or whatever I need
to do to feel like I've done what

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I consider my part. Quite honestly. That being said, it's also intimidating

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as a dad, is that,
Oh God, I really want my daughter

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running around with a gun, you
know, Uh? I think the answers,

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yeah, I think. You know. It's sad that we live in

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a world like that that, but
I'd rather have her have it not need

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it than need it and not have
it. Absolutely, yeah, you know

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both of my daughters, and it's
something I'm definitely looking into. So I

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say all that to say, if
you know, I know a lot of

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the listeners or we're all you know, pretty much around the same age.

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You probably have some kids getting close
to graduating from or maybe they're in the

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first year or second year of college. Especially are females that you know.

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I only say that because they're more
likely maybe to get attacked for rape or

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something like that, especially them,
something you need to strongly consider. In

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my opinion, Mace is great to
have if you don't have anything else.

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But these days, I mean,
the attackers aren't attacking with knives anymore,

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right and uh, and and the
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mace, knives or any tasers,
any of that stuff is better than

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nothing, sure, but a lot
of that stuff you've got to be real

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up close and personal with the attacker
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great point. So you know,
the most violent attacks take place at double

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arms length distance and are completely over
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when you talk about tasers and mace. You gotta you know, you gotta

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be right there. And when it
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it's reactive to the wind. Yeah, and you're probably not thinking that

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you got wind in your face.
Says you go to spray your attacker and

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now that comes back and hit you
in the face. Now you've got the

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double trouble of the attackers coming at
you and you've managed to spray yourself in

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the face with some pepper spray or
at least get a good whiff of it.

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That it's affecting you as well as
a bad guy. That's right.

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People don't realize just just inhaling the
mace, you don't have to get it

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in your eyes. Just inhaling that
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So you know, there's some like
David said, it's better than nothing

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and in all of that, but
you really need to consider with the way

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things are crime wise, and especially
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possibly doing one of one or all
of these classes now in the woman's New

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hand Gun Owner's class, you're gonna
learn some things. You're gonna learn situation

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national awareness. Tell us about that, what would you consider that. That's

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the that's the biggest part of all
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awareness because the easiest way to avoid
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of your surroundings. We live in
a very distracted society, and most people

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are distracted by cell phones and modern
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pull up to a walmart or shopping
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watch how many people walk through the
parking lot and you know, run into

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cars or or you know, trip
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a phone. The bad guys looking
for that person. That guy's not looking

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for that person. That's that's paying
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right, The bad guy's watching for
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that's distracted, got kids on one
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and you know, answering a cell
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paying attention to what's going on around
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don't want to fight. They want
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being aware of your surroundings or something
doesn't look right, doesn't feel right,

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it's probably not right. Yeah,
And trust your get a great point we

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talked about. You know that you
you would size up, for lack of

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a better term, what type of
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h this particular lady. M You
covering aim a types, malfunctions. You

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cover firearm handling skills, obviously very
important. Some of these people may have

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never picked up a firearm. They
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named women that are scared of them, right, you know, it's almost

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like they're scared it's gonna go off
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pistol fundamentals. Tell me about that. So the so the Louisia let me

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just back up here real quick,
Jim, that the Louisiana con Seal Carry

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Class is what the state says that
you have to have in order to get

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a concealed carry permit in state of
Louisiana. Right, But that class,

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while it focuses heavily on the law
and how to operate a gun, we

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don't do a whole lot of shooting. The law. The state says we

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have to shoot thirty six rounds at
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feet, twelve rounds at ten feet, twelve rounds at fifteen feet and you're

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done for five years. Yeah,
and so in my opinion, that doesn't

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really prepare to carry a gun all
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in self defense. So this,
uh, this intermediate self defense pistol course

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that we teach is a is a
course that's probably ninety percent drawing from concealment,

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will shoot forty to five hundred rounds
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of it will be going up empty. In the fifteen to twenty round mag

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scene, it's it's three to five
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over and over again until until you
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but you get pretty good at it. Yeah. And there's a it's interesting

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how to you have on there how
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have a tactical shotgun here at work
that UM that Woody and I were looking

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at yesterday. I'm not gonna use
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it, but Woody was showing me
some things they would do in SWAT and

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one of the things he showed me
was, you know, when you're dealing

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with shotgun shells, it becomes muscle
memory to just push additional shells in there

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as you're sweeping, as you're shooting, because you don't want to have to

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put that gun down and actually loaded
maybe a typical way. And he's he

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literally had this movement with his thumb
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almost like watching a dance. He
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walking in he's bladed. And and
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It shows you in a situation,
how if you have to reload you've unloaded

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the entire magazine, how to do
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do it quickly? How to get
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reality when it comes to a handgun. With these modern handguns, how much

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ammunition they hold, the reality that
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of ammunition is probably next to none. Yeah, the reality that you may

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have to reload because you have a
mouthfunction is much higher. And even though

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our guns are pretty reliable, a
good quality guns, very reliable, they

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still they're not one hundred percent guaranteed
to work. And so you know when

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when bad things happen, the old
murphy jumps in and you know everything that

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can go wrong will go wrong,
right, and so you need to prepare

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for that and hopefully you never need
to never need to hopefully you never need

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to pull a gun on someone.
Yeah, that's much less to go all

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the whole thing, right. You
know, you have a lot of knowledge

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that that you never need to use. But if it's if you, if

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you're in a situation, it's there, that's right now. And and uh,

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we talked a little bit off camera
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was. Um. You also offer
in that intermediate course, I do want

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to mention drawing from concealment important,
Yes, because if you're concealing but you

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never can get to it, um
well, or you're fumbling, uh,

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may be too late. Five seconds
the average interaction, you said. So

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you offer that as well, Yes, sir, are you god the you

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know a lot of indoor ranges out
of liability risk, they don't allow you

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to draw from a holster and shoot, we have an outdoor range and and

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and we do. Yeah. So
of course, from when I'm training you

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the proper way and walk you through
it before I just have you start drawing.

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So yeah, I'm going to be
comfortable. And then my other instructors

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that are they're going to be comfortable
that you can get that gun out without

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hurting yourself self or somebody else and
getting into the fight before we start loading

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up live AMMO and having your pull
up. Yeah neb Barney Fife stuff.

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um. And let me tell you
about some of the other classes as we're

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going along here. You have AR
fifteen Fundamentals, which is probably an advanced

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class, I would imagine it's really
it's a basic course. Oh okay.

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A lot of people bought our fifteens, especially during twenty twenty, during COVID

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and all that, we couldn't keep
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people bought them. A bunch of
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a safe and they haven't moved since. And so R fifteen can be a

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good defensive weapon the and so our
courus is designed for that. We'll take

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about an hour to go over nomenclature, and this is all on the range

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as well. But we've go over
to nomenclature, how to dissembol, similar

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your gun functions, check everything you
need to know, and then and then

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we'll go to shooting it as well. Yeah, and while you got a

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thirty round magazine. Again, we're
gonna shoot two to four round engagements and

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at single targets and then we'll go
to multiple targets. And uh, it's

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a really fun class. We shoot
again about five hundred rounds. And that

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one. Both those and that Defensive
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Both of those are just fun classes
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so absolutely. And and we'll get
into this one. And look, we

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got a lot of real estate agents, so listen to this podcast. Real

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estate agents are probably one of the
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so you're going in in an enclosed

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environment where no one else is there
typically, and safety and self defense is

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very important. Sadly, there's crazy
people in the world right and real estate

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agents know this. They have gotten
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agents saying, hey, you want
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I'm showing it. But there are
situations where that just can't happen. David

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saw a need here, and so
you started a real estate safety and self

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defense course tell us about that.
So that course is just like you said,

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Jim. You know, you go
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agent with a prospective buyer, or
to even go into a house and potentially

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listed once you walk through that door. And while this class is focused on

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real estate, it's really anybody that
goes into other people's homes to do their

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job from day to day, you
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real estate agents. A lot of
these real estate agents are ladies. Yeah,

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and a lot of these ladies put
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a bad guy sees it and says, hey, she looks, she looks,

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she's pretty. And so the next
thing, you know, let's call

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her up and see some of our
houses. Get in the house, shut

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the door, and they can have
their way with you. And so the

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this courses teaches you how to be
prepared for situations like that, with or

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without a firearm. Some people aren't
comfortable carrying a gun on them all the

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time. But what can you do
instead of that? What are some things

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that you can put into place,
you know, staging things through out the

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house, knowing where knives and things
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and understand that not only can they
be good weapons for you, but they

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can also be good weapons for your
attacker. Yeah. And so you know,

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just being alert when you're in those
areas that they can't pick those up

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and use them against you as well. I think that's huge And one of

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the few people that I see offering
any sort of class like this. Uh,

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if you're a real estate agent,
considerate. Look, uh, you

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can't be so reasonable. Your prices
are top notch as far as you don't

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have to be uh Donald Trump or
somebody to to be able to afford this.

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Um, all your class are in
less than a hundred bucks for that

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class, right, that's fair.
Oh yeah, that's fair. And look

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gets you out of a bund and
it would seem like it should have been

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a million dollars. I mean,
that's that's fair right there. Now,

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there are some of you out there
that maybe, um, you know,

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I don't want to do all that
in front of a bunch of people and

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and uh and embarrass myself maybe you
think or whatever. I guess what you

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can do private one on one instruction
on some of this stuff. Uh,

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and you just reach out to uh
to David and you can get, He'll

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figure out what you're what you're looking
for, what you're looking to learn and

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uh, and you know, just
like a jiu jitu see class or karate

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class, will do private one on
one classes if that makes you feel more

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comfortable and teach you anything you need
to know. Um, let's get into

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concealed carry and permits and things like
that real quick. Um, we talked

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about kind of the need for it, the obvious need. Let's talk about

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some questions that some of my my
listeners had specifically, and um, the

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first on the list here is what
would disqualify you from getting a concealed carry?

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So that's kind of a tough question
to answer. But uh, most

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certainly felonies. Yeah, because as
if you if you're convicted felon, you

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can't own a gun. Yeah.
Um, but there's other things that's really

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uh would be on a case by
case basis, I could answer that.

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But yeah, there's uh, felonies
stands out felonies if you're a felon,

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Yeah, he probably can't. Some
some things like DUIs you have to have

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a five year weight since since the
last dui. Um. The but most

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things as long as it's listed and
it's not a felony, won't stop you

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from getting a concealed handgun permit.
Its important thing is that you're honest with

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state police and tell them, you
know, tell them your true background,

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because they yeah, they're in jacking. Uh Does the permit allow you to

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conceal carry outside of Louisiana. Absolutely
so, so the the Louisiana permits recognized

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in thirty eight other states. Uh
So all thirty eight of those states allow

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you to use or permit and concealing
those states. That's a lot of stuff

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and I didn't realize that that's problem
good and the too closest to us are

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going to be New Mexico and Illinois. So none of our neighboring states,

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um um, don't honor or permit. The two that none of our neighboring

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states, all of our neighboring states
honor the permit. Yeah, the two

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that the two closest that don't are
going to be in Mexico and in Illinois.

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Got you so say to answer that
question, yes you can conceal carry,

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and that permit would be fine except
for a limited number of states.

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But just go on live. You
can pull that up or David can give

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you a less when you take the
class. I'm sure of what those are.

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Now, how long does it take
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the permit process is a person has
to take a class, which is what

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we teach. It's a nine hour
class that's mandated by the state. Once

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they take that class, we go
through the application instructions with them in the

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class, show them what they need
to do to get their permit, and

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then one of the things they need
to do is fill out an application online.

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If they're a new applicant, they
have to get fingerprinted, so I

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recommend they go to the state Police
headquarters in Baton Rouge get fingerprinted, and

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00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.000
then and then it's paying their fee
for the state. And that fee is

409
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.599
for a five year permit is one
hundred and twenty five dollars, unless they're

410
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.319
over the age of sixty five,
and then it's half price or sixty two

411
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:18.200
fifty or if they're a veteran,
it's free. Once they pay that fee.

412
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:25.400
Usually most people will get their permit
within two to three weeks. Some

413
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:29.920
people take a little bit longer,
and for a variety of reasons. I

414
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.839
don't know what they are, but
but if you do the application process,

415
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.240
like we stress, most people have
their permits in two to three weeks.

416
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:44.519
Very good. And do you do
that stuff prior to taking the class with

417
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.119
you or is that what you do
after the class? You do that after

418
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.240
the classic because you have to you
have to attach the certificate guide part of

419
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.039
the applications. Very good. So, and I'm glad David said that because

420
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.160
that to me sheds a light on
here. He doesn't have any control.

421
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.440
You know, some people for whatever
reason, may be concerned with well am

422
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.079
I going to get approved or whatever? He doesn't have in control. He

423
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:13.400
gives you the certificate you need to
start and go through the approval process,

424
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:19.519
and and also have the rule book
when it comes to a concealed carrying in

425
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.799
Louisiana. And so I can look
up if you know, if a person

426
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:28.759
has a question, are they going
to be eligible based on their past?

427
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:31.240
I can you know if they're honest
with me, I can look up and

428
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:36.359
tell them you know, yes,
you you'll be okay, or no you

429
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:39.559
won't. Yeah, yeah, speeding
tickets, You're okay. So don't forget

430
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:45.799
about that speeding ticket. Um does
a permit expire? Yes, So we

431
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:49.920
have two permits in Louisiana. Actually, so we have a five year permit,

432
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.000
which is obviously good for five years. Yeah, and then we have

433
00:32:53.039 --> 00:33:00.000
a lifetime permit. So the lifetime
permit costs five hundred dollars. It's good

434
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.920
for a lifetime. However, you
still have to take training every five years.

435
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.160
So all you do is you take
training, some certificate into the state.

436
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:12.240
You're good to go. Yeah.
If you're over sixty five, that

437
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.240
lifetime permits two hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, and if you're a veteran,

438
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:21.039
it's also free, very good.
So that's the two different permits,

439
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.319
but either one you still have to
take training every five years. Got you.

440
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:29.240
And we talked a little bit.
One of my listeners asked about other

441
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.880
recommended guns, and we just talked
about that with you know, there's a

442
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.680
lot of considerations relative to your size, whether you're mail or female. Can

443
00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.079
you handle the recoil, how are
you going to carry? How are you

444
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.240
going to carry very yeah, let's
talk about that for a second. So

445
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.000
it's more than just a waistband,
right, and there's a variety of different

446
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.680
ways to carry. I recommend that
you carry the guns somewhere on your body.

447
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.920
Preferably around your waistband somewhere so you
can get to it quickly. Yeah,

448
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.799
ankle holsters, I know, some
boat guys. Yeah, when the

449
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.359
bad guys a foot from you know, you gotta bend over and get that

450
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.039
floor your pant leg. Maybe not
an ankle holster best choice, right,

451
00:34:07.199 --> 00:34:14.400
Maybe maybe that a second place.
Yeah, I recommend the gun around your

452
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.639
waist. If I could convince my
wife to do that all the time,

453
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.679
i'd be performing some miracles. But
yeah, so if you're gonna but if

454
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.440
you're gonna put it in a purse
or a backpack or something like that,

455
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.440
you know, you just need to
maintain possession of that. And and I

456
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:32.559
do notice, David that they have
um different options as far as holsters.

457
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.159
Um. Some of them are traditional
holsters. Uh, some of them.

458
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:42.360
I've even seen them with the it's
almost like a valcard deal that you a'most

459
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.000
like a waiste trainer, let's say, and it has all pocket and you

460
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.880
can put it there. What I
mean, I guess it's kind of each

461
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.960
individual preference. But what do you
like? So I like appendix to carry

462
00:34:53.360 --> 00:35:00.079
um kindex or plastic holsters? Yeah, number one, whatever holster you you

463
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:02.320
use, it needs to be a
holster that's going to protect that trigger.

464
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:07.079
If you don't protect that trigger,
you're just asking for a neglegent discharge.

465
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:15.039
So covering that trigger up with a
good hard Kidex holster. Some people don't

466
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:19.639
like that hard kaidex up against their
bodies, so they get some softer sides.

467
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.159
You did have the belly bands as
you just mentioned, or they have

468
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.199
these compression shirts where it has a
pocket under the arm where you kind of

469
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.599
like shoulder, kind of like a
shoulder holster. Yeah, all those are

470
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.639
great options. When the temperatures like
it was yesterday and going to be today,

471
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.599
wearing a belly band and or a
compression shirt probably not a good option.

472
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.320
I not nonsiph Lesiana, that's for
sure. Um, And you just

473
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.280
brought up another very good point.
And look just really quick, and David

474
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.760
is going to get into all this
with you in the class. But one

475
00:35:53.800 --> 00:36:00.360
of the things you're probably gonna learn
is the difference in guns relative too.

476
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.159
So you have, like us,
we'll take a smith and wesson at a

477
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:07.239
glock. Smith and wesson typically is
a double action trigger, where a glock

478
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:12.480
is a single action. So what
does that mean to people out there?

479
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.440
That have no idea about guns.
Well, it's it's less of a sweep

480
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:21.039
when you pull that glock, it's
gonna fire just a little bit quicker.

481
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.440
With a it almost has to be
an intentional and I mean superintentional fire with

482
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:30.039
a with a smith and wasson because
it's about yeah. So, um,

483
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:36.440
those are things that that you've learned
and or certainly that you could ask David

484
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.239
and he would have the answer to
when you're deciding on one type of gun

485
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.440
to get, because it matters if
you're someone and you have a lot of

486
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.039
kids at your house and you're concerned
with well, if they pick it up,

487
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:52.280
which one's gonna be easier to fire? Well, obviously a single action

488
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.079
is going to be probably more likely
to go off when you don't want it

489
00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:00.079
to than than a double action.
It's a you know, where you have

490
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.480
to really intend to pull that trigger. Um. So those are things that

491
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.679
you also learn in these classes when
especially when he's kind of sizing you up

492
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.960
for you know what he what do
he thinks you might brand wise, what

493
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.400
you might be best for your situation? Um, do you offer private classes?

494
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.559
We answered that one already is fingerprinting
required. We covered that Um,

495
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.360
what is the most important lesson?
Would you say that you teach in your

496
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.719
class avoidance? Yeah, love it
that you said that. Imagine a gun

497
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.519
class and we're teaching him to avoid
a situation. But do you only fight?

498
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.599
You're guaranteed the wins when you're not
in a man and y'all, it

499
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:44.360
does not make you a wimp to
avoid. Absolutely. M I had a

500
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:45.880
Navy seal I was talking to one
time, y'all, and I said,

501
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:49.639
you know, I'm giving him.
I'm intrigued with this, So I'm giving

502
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.960
him situations and I'm like, what
if this happens or what if that happens?

503
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.760
And he says, run out,
run if I can run. And

504
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.280
this is a Navy seal, y'all. He's trying to kill. Right.

505
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.840
If I can run, I'm running. I'm running. So yeah, that's

506
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.800
avoidance is always what you want top
on your mind. I love it that

507
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.880
you that you said that. Um, is it okay? When you get

508
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.119
a permit, does it matter what
gun you use with it? Or do

509
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.800
you do you have to commit to
a certain gun? So in Louisiana.

510
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.840
Number one, we don't register guns
in Louisiana. And secondly, when you

511
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.679
get a permit, it doesn't specify
a particular gun. Yeah, I would

512
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:37.000
recommend out of a training standpoint that
you do carry the same gun or very

513
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:42.840
similar guns only because when it comes
down to needing that gun, your body's

514
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:45.599
going to result to muscle memory.
Yeah. And if you're constantly changing that

515
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.360
gun out every day. You know, today, I have a revolver,

516
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.760
tomorrow Sima automatic, and I'm carrying
them in different places. I'm not going

517
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:58.960
to know where the gun's at,
and I'm not going to be quite confident

518
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.000
on how to use that gun.
I want a gun that I'm that I

519
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.199
that I know it is going to
work, that I know where it's at,

520
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:08.360
and that I know how to manipulate
everything on it, that I'm confident

521
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:14.960
in it. So I prefer to
stick with the same gun. Uh,

522
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:17.000
and then train with that gun as
well. That's the most important thing,

523
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.960
is that to train with that gun. But I do know plenty of people

524
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.519
that that you know, just like
uh, getting dressed in the morning,

525
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.840
they go open up safe and oh
my god, am I gonna carry to

526
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:34.559
me? So yeah, well yeah, and some you know, there's a

527
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:37.280
lot of gun enthusiasts out there and
they have six hundred guns and that you

528
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.119
know you can't even carry that many
with you. But um, but and

529
00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:45.360
a lot of us are like that, uh, especially in this area.

530
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.360
You know where you're you're introduced to
guns at a young age. Look,

531
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.480
when my kids were very young,
I showed them the guns that I had,

532
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:58.440
and I said, if you ever
want to see this, I'll show

533
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.079
it to you. Absolutely, don't
ever go playing with us when I'm not

534
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:07.519
around or and look, I have
mine and safe and stuff. But uh,

535
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:13.039
but I wanted my kids to not
be scared of guns and uh also

536
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.800
not get curious of guns when I
wasn't around. I told him I'll pull

537
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.400
it out. I'll show it to
you unloaded, obviously. But um,

538
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:30.079
but something very important about your overall
business here from the from the education side

539
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:35.159
is the education side. It's it's
uh, it doesn't matter how old you

540
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.440
are, you're not too old to
learn this stuff. You need it.

541
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:44.559
It's important. Um. I'm gonna
just give a quick rundown of the classes

542
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:49.679
that you offer Louisiana. Concealed Carry
class obviously, which we've been talking about

543
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:54.760
this whole time. Uh, Intermediate
self defense pistol class, Emergency First Aid

544
00:40:55.000 --> 00:41:00.880
fundamentals class. I bet y'all didn't
know. He offered that he does Woman's

545
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.119
new Handgun Owner class, he does
private one on ones. Real estate safety

546
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:15.159
classes, which we talked about are
fundamentals huge class as well. Look,

547
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:22.039
y'all, all of these classes are
unbelievably affordable, to say the least,

548
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.360
all of them less than one hundred
and fifty bucks or lass. The private

549
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.280
one on ones, those are the
only ones he would have to quote on

550
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:34.719
a case by case basis as far
as that goes, tell me about USCCA.

551
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.159
So before before I cover that real
quick jump one that's not on here

552
00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:40.760
that I want to mention, that's
a new class that we offer is a

553
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:50.360
new child gun safety class that's geared
towards either children or adults parents. Yea,

554
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:57.960
The reality is in South Louisiana,
everybody has guns. Everybody. It's

555
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:00.719
a way of life. A lot
of people have rifles and shotguns because they

556
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:06.320
hunt um and and so you can
do the best job in the world of

557
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.679
locking your guns up and making sure
that your children don't get access to them.

558
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.400
I believe that. I firmly believe
in and eliminating a curiosity, especially

559
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:20.119
with boys. Yeah, but the
reality is they're going to go down the

560
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.039
street, they're going to go to
your cousins, your brothers, your sisters,

561
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:28.079
more and complication, to school,
and they're going to get exposed to

562
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:32.320
a gun. And so if you
don't teach that child the right way uh

563
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:37.199
and what to do if they get
exposed to a gun, uh, you

564
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.760
know, that's when that's when dumb
things happen with guns. Yeah, So

565
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:45.960
educating these children is so important,
and then educating the parents on how to

566
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:52.679
educate their children is equally as important. Amen, Just because just because you

567
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.280
know how to how to handle a
rifle or a shotgun doesn't mean that you

568
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:58.880
know how to handle a pistol.
And we see that a lot in my

569
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:04.519
classes where someone maybe they think that
they're very proficient with a gun because they've

570
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:08.199
shot rifles and shotguns their entire life, but haven't done a whole lot with

571
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:15.119
a pistol and so right, and
then have a very difficult time teaching a

572
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:20.039
child about that because they don't know
all the details themselves. So yeah,

573
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.039
I had a friend of mine called
me one time and he very very uh

574
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:31.679
efficient with a pistol and never earned
a shotgun, gets a shotgun and he's

575
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:37.079
curious, um about lighting it and
stuff. Look, he's a guy,

576
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:42.280
right, So he loads it,
he chambers a shotgun, and he can't

577
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.480
figure out how to Yeah, so
he calls me and he says, I

578
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.480
got a problem. I said,
what's that? He said, I just

579
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:55.239
you know, chamber of shotgun shell
and uh, I don't know how to

580
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:01.800
eject it without shooting it, you
know. So I walked through the process

581
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.119
or to speak, and he was
able to do that, but he was

582
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.920
in a panic because he had kids
and he was in a panic, and

583
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.599
he's like, now I've got a
chamber shotgun that I can't But that's you

584
00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:16.400
know, that's why you take classes
like this. And I'm sure he was

585
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.480
embarrassed as hell to even call me
and mentioned that, but he did,

586
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:22.760
and shout out to him for doing
it, because that was better than you

587
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:28.119
know, trying to un chamber it
without knowing what you're doing and accidentally go

588
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:31.840
off, or you know, even
worse than that. So, UM,

589
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:38.760
any of these classes that you're interested
in, definitely reach out to David uh

590
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:43.079
and get those done. I'm gonna
be doing some of these classes coming up

591
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.199
that h that I want to do. One of them, you know,

592
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.320
And I'm not gonna go into what
they are because some of these I don't

593
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.440
want people to know my business on
what I have don't have. But but

594
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:57.159
I'm gonna be doing some of these
classes, um, and some of them

595
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:05.039
already. Yeah. Also, now
we're gonna go into another whole part of

596
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:09.239
David's business that m I bet a
lot of people may or may not be

597
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:14.159
familiar with, but is very exciting, and that is you have a full

598
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:19.320
service gun shop. Yes, sir, we have a just started out.

599
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:23.400
So a little history on the gun
shop. Yeah. When when I retired

600
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:27.360
from the Army, I got a
degree in gunsmith ing and was doing that

601
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:31.199
part time. On the side,
I was hydro dipping and guns, which

602
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:37.320
you have to have a FFL in
order to gunsmith. Yeah, so I

603
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.599
got an FFL and then I started
selling a little bit of guns on the

604
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:44.679
side, just here and there people
I know. And then uh, in

605
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.440
twenty seventeen, the company I worked
for just abruptly decided they were on close

606
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.559
and so I said, well,
I'm going to open a gun store,

607
00:45:54.679 --> 00:46:00.199
just a little hobby store to to
help supplement my shooting habit. And uh,

608
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.119
and I teach concealed carry classes anyway, So you know, the little

609
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.639
hobby store didn't plan on it to
be very big. And then uh,

610
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.199
then the next thing, you know, COVID hit and the governor shut her

611
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.960
stay down and people were lined up
down my driveway. Um for months on

612
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:20.199
end buying guns. We try to
keep guns in stock. Yeah, and

613
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:25.679
so the little hobby business kind of
exploded in twenty twenty. And still you

614
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:30.119
know, we uh were a little
bit off the beaten path. But we'll

615
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:31.719
save you a lot of money,
number one. And we don't have uh,

616
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.960
we don't have all the riff rafte
that you get from being in you

617
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.039
know, in being metropolitan area.
Yeah, the overhead is a lot more

618
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:43.880
controllable. And when you can control
overhead, you can control rising quite frankly.

619
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.599
Um, but so much to offer
in this store. So obviously he

620
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:53.639
sells the guns. Uh, he
sells everything from may or fifteens to uh

621
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:59.679
smith and wasn't nine millimeters to judges? Are those hard to get? Still?

622
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:04.280
Yes? Um, there's there's some
just some guns. Just sold one.

623
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.079
I had one in stock and just
sold it yesterday, judge. For

624
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.159
those of you that aren't familiar,
that's a that's basically like a pistol that

625
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.840
she's a shotguns. Yes, sir, that's that's a's a great little hand

626
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:19.239
cannon. Yeah. Great to have
in your car someone drives the car jack

627
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.199
you, let's put it that way, but very hard to get. Got

628
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.840
more more of a rare gun than
what you would find with like an MP's

629
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:30.639
time elemented or something. Um.
One of the interesting things that you do

630
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:36.159
is you do some some people might
call it painting the guns. What do

631
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:38.480
you call it? It's uh,
it's actually called Sarah Coote. Sarah Coote

632
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.119
is a paint. YEP, it's
a paint that did a protect your gun.

633
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.360
UM. I wouldn't recommend doing it
to an heirloom, but if it's

634
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.480
a How I got into this was
when I used to hunt out in a

635
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.559
swamp, had a brand new Bretta, a three hundred shotgun. Was out

636
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:59.880
deer hunting on one very humid morning, and like we have every day in

637
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:05.480
South Louisiana, and come back to
the deer camp and my gun is covered

638
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.280
in rust and uh. And so
when I when I came home, I

639
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.920
decided that wasn't gonna happen again.
So I got into dirt coat at that

640
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:19.079
time, dirt coat of my gun
and dirt coats another paint, uh,

641
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.519
Sarah coat. I think it is
a little more durable, a lot more

642
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.280
durable. Uh. It's baked on
finish instead air dry. But it's like

643
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:32.079
a ceramic cutting for kind guns.
Yeah, it's very flexible, so it

644
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:37.360
doesn't crack or anything like, yeah, how much rubberized kind of yep,

645
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.719
and uh, but it will protect
your gun. Now, when I,

646
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.559
you know, come back from a
hunting trip, my gun's covered in mud,

647
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.800
I can just hold it off with
the water hose and and and blow

648
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.960
the water out and run a cleaner
ride down the barrel, and it's ready

649
00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:59.119
to put in the safe. It's
ready to love it. And and you

650
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:04.679
can really get into something like let's
say you were someone let's say you were

651
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.559
a police officer and you want to
like the fem blue line around the gun

652
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:13.960
that kind of thing. Uh.
Or maybe you're just a lover of the

653
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:16.360
United States like I am, and
you won't red, white and blue.

654
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.559
We've done. We've done US flags, we've done, we've painted ladies.

655
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:29.000
We do a lot of the teal
or tiffany, blue, pink, purple,

656
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:34.039
uh done, smell us you guns
we've done, U we can some

657
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.960
of that sarahcoat will replicate blueing.
Yeah, it looks just like a you

658
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:44.800
know, a bluing we've taken.
We've taken a gun. Uh, several

659
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.559
guns that have come in you know, Hurricane Katrina, what eighteen years ago,

660
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.000
and believe or not, I still
get guns in today that we're in

661
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:58.000
Hurricane Katrina that set under water that
are covered in rust. Uh. And

662
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:00.280
you know, if we can get
the rust out of it and and get

663
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:05.199
it stopped rusting and uh, um, we can restore it. We just

664
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:14.239
restored a old Remington seven forty two
that looks amazing that set in floodwaters during

665
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:19.639
Hurricane Contrina. Known did we do
the the the metal parts of the game,

666
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.960
but we also did the wood and
just looked amazing. I've got a

667
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:30.639
crack barrel shotgun that I started with
when I was a kid, and it

668
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.440
went into water in the flood and
it's you know, it's rusted to hacking

669
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:43.119
back. But I took some sandpaper
and basically just wiped all that rust off

670
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.199
the barrel part of it. I'm
rant And let you see if there's anything

671
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:51.480
you can do with that. Um
My can so that's something y'all. Look,

672
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.119
we flooded around here, uh in
twenty sixteen, all of us,

673
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.679
some of us got six feet.
Um, if you got some guns that

674
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:01.039
went through that, and I know
there's a lot of people out there that

675
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:05.000
did. Let let him check it
out. It might be something he can

676
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.280
do with that if to fix it
for you, can he get it back

677
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.679
in fire and condition? Maybe maybe
not, but maybe he can at least

678
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:15.280
get it back in presentation condition if
it's an heirloom, and even even getting

679
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.079
back in fire and condition, you
know, yeah, most of the parts

680
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.840
are replaceable. So if we can
get the parts, like we're stilling her

681
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.119
carn exactly. You know, you
got the bear on the receiver, that's

682
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:29.199
the biggest part of the gun,
the guts, we can replace all that.

683
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.039
So I love it, love it. So so there you go.

684
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:35.559
That's something we didn't even intend on
talking about, but something out there that

685
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.639
there's a big need for that in
its parish. I can't tell you the

686
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.280
amount of guys I know that their
guns went under water and they saved them,

687
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.280
but they you know, they're not
sure what to do with them.

688
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:50.079
So there's your option right there.
Uh, knives you carry knives. I

689
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:53.159
know there's a lot of kniving that
y'all be surprising amount of kniving thesists there

690
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:57.519
are. But there's some guys that
love their knives. Yes you are.

691
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.920
You got all kinds of different options
with that girls, which is an old,

692
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:07.039
old, reliable, let's say,
and great knife. Um, but

693
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:10.960
you've got some interesting I don't know
what you would call them, but uh

694
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.480
not switch blacke knives because those are
illegal. But they're called out the front

695
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.280
knives, so they're they're an automatic
knife that has a button on the side.

696
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.159
They're one legal and off at the
states. They're not. A switchblade

697
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:30.280
is called out the front ye.
Um. The brands we carry of those

698
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:37.280
or either Cobra Tech or Infinity Tactical. They look identical almost, but they're

699
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.880
good quality knives. And the good
thing is should they come open in your

700
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.280
pocket or when you don't want them
to come open, as soon as it

701
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:50.159
hits any resistance, it's going to
stop. Now. Wire switchblade illegal,

702
00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:54.239
I don't mean either. That never
made sense to me because I'm like,

703
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.119
okay, so gods are illegal,
which should be, but a switch blaye

704
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.599
sound illegal? Um, Yeah,
it doesn't make any sense. Y'all.

705
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:06.159
I don't understand that. But that's
a whole another podcast. Maybe one day

706
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:09.159
me and David will start another one. Um, but you do carry that.

707
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:16.079
You carry some obviously holsters, things
like that. You carry Ammo,

708
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:24.400
Ammo um, you carry U cases, even guitar cases that, uh look,

709
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:29.039
people don't want attention to. Maybe
they're bringing a you know, a

710
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.000
rifle in and out of their house
or whatever. These look like guitar cases.

711
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:36.480
Yeah, it looks like guitar case. You cut it out and it's

712
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:39.119
on wheels. So if it gets
loaded down with some Ammo and magazines and

713
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:44.320
a rifle or something, or a
bunch of pistols whatever, Right, people

714
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.400
don't want to know, don't want
you to know that they're carrying a gun.

715
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.159
So you come, I don't carrying
mine out back and forth from my

716
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.599
car and stuff like that. I
don't want anybody seeing that. Number one,

717
00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:57.400
I don't want to freak them out. Number two, I don't want

718
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:02.920
them to know my business. But
uh so I always you know, especially

719
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:07.320
if it's a rifle. You know, I almost wait to do that at

720
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.159
night, just because I don't want
anybody knowing my business. To be honest

721
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.760
with that I feel like that's but
that's a great way to you know,

722
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:22.039
Hey, Jim plays guitar a lot, bringing that guitar everywhere. So yeah,

723
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:25.400
no doubt about it. So you
do have that. Um, let

724
00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:29.400
me go over the hours on that. That's uh. I think we mentioned

725
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.800
that earlier. We're gonna mention it
again Monday through Friday nine to five thirty

726
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:39.119
and Saturday nine to two, and
I'm gonna definitely go check that out.

727
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:44.679
Look, we want to cover this. It's Father's Day this weekend, and

728
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:50.440
so this part of the podcast I'm
actually going to put out there by itself.

729
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:55.440
I'm gonna do this today in that
way people can see what he has

730
00:54:55.519 --> 00:55:00.920
going on for Father's Day because the
rest of this podcast y'all be released until

731
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:04.559
next Friday. So list is just
a little snippet I'm doing for David.

732
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.679
Um, but we're gonna cover some
deals you got going on for for Father's

733
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.880
Day because it's it's gonna be this
Sunday. You're gonna be you're hearing this

734
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:19.159
on Friday, free boxes of am
I with every handgun purchase. See by

735
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.880
handgun, he's got you on your
box. Ama, get a box AMOU.

736
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:28.519
And then for our knives and accessories. We got a ten percent off

737
00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.079
all knives. And then here you
guys, he's gonna pay you a tax

738
00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.800
for you basically yes, indeed,
and then uh, twenty five dollars off

739
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:42.800
our concealed Carry class our great deal
on an already great deal, right you

740
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:46.400
know, and our intermediate self defense
pistol and then they are fifteen class.

741
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:51.079
You get twenty five dollars off of
those if you've registered on our website or

742
00:55:51.159 --> 00:55:54.199
you have to put in the coupon
code a Dad's Day. Yeah, and

743
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:59.840
to give your twenty five hours off
of those courses. And let's shout out

744
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:04.119
your website real quick. I have
actually two of them. So my gun,

745
00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:09.639
my my conceiled carry website is Pdconcialedcarey
dot com. And then my gun

746
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:19.000
sales is pdccstore dot com. Google
and all the other uh out cyber people

747
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:21.400
out there. They don't they don't
like guns too much. So I have

748
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:28.000
to keep mind guy class separate.
Yeah, yeah, that's right and very

749
00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:30.599
smart. And look, most people
don't know what you just said, and

750
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:34.440
that's right. Well, you have
to be real careful even though I see

751
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.840
you know with the other podcast I
do. We have to do some innovative

752
00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:43.159
things to um to to make sure
that Google doesn't dumb us down to where

753
00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:45.960
nobody can find us to say the
least. UM, So, very good

754
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:51.360
point. And look, anytime,
anytime you're a first responder or a VET

755
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.519
timperson off right off the bat.
So he supports those first responders and those

756
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.719
those uh vets in the middle military. That's very important. UM. And

757
00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:07.400
social media, y'all. He has
actually a great social media presence. A

758
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.440
lot of a lot of people on
his Facebook. So, uh, people

759
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:15.880
are out there and they're figuring out
that you have a heck of a business

760
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:21.199
and they want to learn more about
it. That's obvious. Um, we've

761
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.239
been going for fifty eight minutes.
And look, me and David talk about

762
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:28.719
this stuff all day. But I
know y'all got stuff to eight minutes.

763
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:30.719
Yeah, I know, and we're
like we're like, rue, we're just

764
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:37.000
getting more over here. But I
really appreciate, appreciate you coming by answering

765
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:42.079
the questions. Uh. We covered
all the questions that these these nice facts

766
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:47.679
and watched my podcast add um quick
question, quick question off this of you.

767
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:52.639
We didn't script this out ahead of
time, but when you were let's

768
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.039
say, twelve years old. I
kind of asked these every now and then,

769
00:57:54.400 --> 00:58:00.159
What was your dream job when you
were twelve? I actually wanted to

770
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:04.679
following my grandfather's footsteps and going to
the military. Interesting, So you did

771
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:07.360
it, You made it happen,
brother, I didn't what I wanted to

772
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:12.760
do in the military. I wanted
to I wanted to be a mechanic.

773
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.760
Yeah, because so that's what my
dad was. It was a mechanic.

774
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:20.480
And yeah and uh and but so
when I joined the army, when I

775
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.639
went down to the maps, I
was all excited to be a mechanic.

776
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:27.199
And then I had to see a
video of a tank jumping a ditch at

777
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:30.800
about forty five miles an hour,
shooting, and that quickly changed. So

778
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:36.639
that will that will do it.
That will do it. I wanted to

779
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:40.079
be a weatherman if all things.
Yeah, I love the weatherman. Look

780
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.480
at tornado, good tornado coming coming
my way. I was glad to the

781
00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:47.280
TV. I just hurricanes. I
was glad to still to this day.

782
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.079
Of course, I don't want any
of that to come this way. But

783
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:54.079
it is amost like, uh oh
man, I get excited. It's it's

784
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:58.400
just the way I was built.
I guess, but yeah, Weatherman didn't

785
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:01.280
work out for whatever reason. But
I'm doing this and I love this even

786
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:06.000
more. But that's awesome that you
were able to you know, you wanted

787
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:07.679
to do it. You made it
happen, you know, very good.

788
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:13.559
Thank you for the business you open. I think it's very important y'all that

789
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:19.320
we obviously we support local, family
owned businesses, like what David's got going

790
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.440
on at P and D gun Shop. You got any questions, David,

791
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.639
shout out your you want to just
message you call you had if anybody had

792
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.639
questions that it is the best way
to do it, and call us our

793
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:32.239
phone numbers two to five, five, eight, eight, six, one

794
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:37.719
three zero. Okay, come by
the shop. It's three two two nine

795
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:43.119
zero saster Landing Walker And look,
don't let the don't let the little shop

796
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:46.679
behind my house deceive you. Yeah, you come. Everybody that watchs through

797
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:51.400
the door for the first time as
amazed at how much stuff we're able to

798
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:53.719
cram into that little beach. Oh
yeah, we got about I think a

799
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:59.440
little over three hundred guns on hand
right now. Wow, and so the

800
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.079
But you can also email us at
PD Concealed Carry at gmail dot com.

801
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:08.920
Yeah, or go on Facebook page. Very good. Yeah, definitely go

802
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:14.159
on that Facebook, give him a
like if you go and Mary popping there

803
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:16.880
and next few weeks tell him or
after you watch this podcast, which the

804
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:22.199
full podcast where next week after this
podcast airs, going there and mentioned that

805
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.320
you saw it on Local Leaders and
let him know where you came from.

806
01:00:25.559 --> 01:00:28.599
And I'll tell you what, Jim, if they come in and mentioned they

807
01:00:28.679 --> 01:00:30.440
heard on Local Leaders, we'll give
them. We'll give them ten percent off

808
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:36.880
home, ten percent off for you
folks, for you folks. Just you've

809
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:40.159
Local Leaders awesome people said, definitely
mention it now because you can save money

810
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:44.039
and if if you like us,
you'd like to save money where you can.

811
01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:49.920
So thank you very much again.
Great business and you're doing great work

812
01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:55.320
and we're gonna I'm definitely be by
there, probably more than more than you

813
01:00:55.519 --> 01:01:00.960
like me to be, well more
than my wife will like trends into like

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a barber shop. Yeah, it
really does. Yeah, there's no doubt

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about it. So thank you again, all you listeners out there. I

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appreciate you, I appreciate you supporting
us, and and look we have grown

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to levels that I'll never fully understand
just from y'all support check out the other

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things we do with Real Life for
a Crime Daily, Bloody and Goala.

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Check out Woody Everton's Real Life for
Real Crime Look Unspeakable with Kelly Jennings.

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All that. There's a great podcast. But when you're looking for the best

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in family and businesses and the Livingston
Parish area right here at Local Leaders,

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that's all you gotta do. We're
gonna give it, give it to you

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every Friday. So until next time, I'm Jim Chapman reminding you love your

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community, support local business just like
Pee and d Gunshot, keep leading.

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Thank you very much, David,
thanks you